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00:01:08,150 series of radio broadcast known as the 30 00:01:13,090 --> 00:01:11,270 fireside chats his aim was to reassure 31 00:01:14,860 --> 00:01:13,100 the common man that our society would 32 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:14,870 recover from its troubled times 33 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:17,570 well we're far from 1930 and I deal with 34 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:20,810 a different kind of buyer worldly 35 00:01:29,130 --> 00:01:22,850 frustration we offer a fresh 36 00:01:33,999 --> 00:01:32,050 happy days are here again people from 37 00:01:36,100 --> 00:01:34,009 sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carl wood 38 00:01:37,690 --> 00:01:36,110 welcome to the little show inside the 39 00:01:40,150 --> 00:01:37,700 big show because when you really get 40 00:01:42,249 --> 00:01:40,160 down to it so much of reality is crafted 41 00:01:44,350 --> 00:01:42,259 around us by culture creation occultist 42 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:44,360 like a bad Broadway play entitled how to 43 00:01:48,999 --> 00:01:46,880 bring about the apocalypse and it seems 44 00:01:51,490 --> 00:01:49,009 like they have a version for every genre 45 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:51,500 flavor and subset of reality as the 46 00:01:56,410 --> 00:01:53,930 tyrannical think tanks take your mind 47 00:01:58,359 --> 00:01:56,420 wherever they want it to go and as you 48 00:01:59,980 --> 00:01:58,369 probably know by now most of this work 49 00:02:02,139 --> 00:01:59,990 is done through the arts and 50 00:02:04,420 --> 00:02:02,149 entertainment our guards are down our 51 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:04,430 brain waves properly recalibrated and 52 00:02:08,889 --> 00:02:06,650 our mind primed to accept the themes and 53 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:08,899 ideas that the Titans of Tinseltown deem 54 00:02:13,090 --> 00:02:11,570 worthy but even beyond the manipulation 55 00:02:14,860 --> 00:02:13,100 of the masses when you just look at 56 00:02:16,630 --> 00:02:14,870 Hollywood and those involved it 57 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:16,640 definitely seems to take its toll as 58 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:18,650 most of us know it as the epicentre of 59 00:02:24,070 --> 00:02:21,410 drugs sexual abuse and mind control with 60 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:24,080 a painted-on smile and when it comes to 61 00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:26,000 revealing 8-millimeter magic and the 62 00:02:30,250 --> 00:02:28,160 ideas embedded in the arts few can touch 63 00:02:33,250 --> 00:02:30,260 the work of today's returning guest J 64 00:02:35,140 --> 00:02:33,260 Dyer he runs Jays analysis calm one of 65 00:02:37,539 --> 00:02:35,150 the premiere film and philosophy sites 66 00:02:40,150 --> 00:02:37,549 on the net he's also the author of e so 67 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:40,160 tarik Hollywood sex cults and symbols in 68 00:02:44,229 --> 00:02:42,170 film which did make it to number one on 69 00:02:46,060 --> 00:02:44,239 Amazon in the film in Hollywood category 70 00:02:48,220 --> 00:02:46,070 and today we're trying to make lightning 71 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:48,230 strike twice as we gather around the 72 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:49,850 digital campfire to talk about his 73 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:52,970 sequel esoteric Hollywood to more sex 74 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:55,519 cults and symbolism and film so let's 75 00:02:58,180 --> 00:02:56,090 get into it 76 00:03:00,130 --> 00:02:58,190 the real ritual revealer the silver 77 00:03:02,350 --> 00:03:00,140 screen exposure and the professor of 78 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:02,360 motion picture propaganda Jayma man 79 00:03:08,349 --> 00:03:05,510 welcome to THC number three holy [\h__\h] 80 00:03:09,110 --> 00:03:08,359 Greg that was some Bey's prose man what 81 00:03:11,449 --> 00:03:09,120 were you 82 00:03:15,259 --> 00:03:11,459 where you need a good that was some good 83 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:15,269 pros now I appreciate it man it's in the 84 00:03:19,820 --> 00:03:17,280 works it's in the works this year is 85 00:03:22,550 --> 00:03:19,830 just flying by though and I never seem 86 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:22,560 to get that far down on my to-do list 87 00:03:27,229 --> 00:03:24,720 which makes book number two for you all 88 00:03:28,759 --> 00:03:27,239 that much more impressive and it's 89 00:03:32,059 --> 00:03:28,769 always great to talk to you you know as 90 00:03:34,250 --> 00:03:32,069 a pop culture and cinema junkie I love 91 00:03:36,559 --> 00:03:34,260 these interviews that really get into 92 00:03:39,140 --> 00:03:36,569 the ideas and philosophy that are hidden 93 00:03:40,580 --> 00:03:39,150 behind all the razzle-dazzle for people 94 00:03:42,860 --> 00:03:40,590 who might not remember esoteric 95 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:42,870 Hollywood one sort of focuses on 96 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:45,329 clusters of films categorized by 97 00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:48,450 director Kubrick Spielberg Hitchcock and 98 00:03:53,660 --> 00:03:50,910 of course Ian Fleming in the Bond films 99 00:03:56,569 --> 00:03:53,670 as well and today we're gonna get into 100 00:03:58,819 --> 00:03:56,579 esoteric Hollywood to tell us about the 101 00:04:00,440 --> 00:03:58,829 structure of this latest book and the 102 00:04:03,470 --> 00:04:00,450 places it goes that are different from 103 00:04:05,059 --> 00:04:03,480 the first yeah exactly that was the main 104 00:04:07,970 --> 00:04:05,069 difference I thought on the sophomore 105 00:04:09,289 --> 00:04:07,980 attempt I needed to take things in a 106 00:04:11,449 --> 00:04:09,299 different direction and at the same time 107 00:04:14,629 --> 00:04:11,459 up my game while having some of the same 108 00:04:16,370 --> 00:04:14,639 flavor of Part 1 as you mentioned we 109 00:04:18,349 --> 00:04:16,380 talked a lot about Kubrick in the first 110 00:04:20,719 --> 00:04:18,359 100 pages of Kubrick hundred pages of 111 00:04:22,670 --> 00:04:20,729 Spielberg hati stuff and I was like well 112 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:22,680 I can't just repeat that I got to go in 113 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:24,570 the new direction so I decided to do it 114 00:04:29,810 --> 00:04:26,880 topically and what we started with was 115 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:29,820 the mob I thought you know I can't 116 00:04:33,740 --> 00:04:31,650 believe I didn't touch on the Mafia and 117 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:33,750 I should Hollywood which is a huge huge 118 00:04:38,659 --> 00:04:36,450 factor and that whole singing over the 119 00:04:41,570 --> 00:04:38,669 last century so I start there 120 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:41,580 I do conclude some cult stuff and some 121 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:43,410 occult stuff in part two there's a heavy 122 00:04:48,580 --> 00:04:45,810 dose of that but I also wanted to add 123 00:04:50,719 --> 00:04:48,590 more spy stuff and in relationship to 124 00:04:52,219 --> 00:04:50,729 how movies have portrayed you know 125 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:52,229 dialectics yeah 126 00:04:59,900 --> 00:04:55,250 Cold War dialectic or the East West 127 00:05:02,210 --> 00:04:59,910 Islam dialectic and then I moved to the 128 00:05:04,750 --> 00:05:02,220 second section after about 200 pages of 129 00:05:07,310 --> 00:05:04,760 that we get into how Hollywood has 130 00:05:09,260 --> 00:05:07,320 pictured mind control with a selection 131 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:09,270 of films originally I was going to do 132 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:11,370 every mind control film was like I'm 133 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:13,740 gonna take a section I just do like a 134 00:05:17,089 --> 00:05:15,690 paragraph on every mind control film 135 00:05:19,010 --> 00:05:17,099 that I could find but it turns out 136 00:05:21,650 --> 00:05:19,020 there's like a zillion of those there so 137 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:21,660 maybe so many movies that 138 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:23,730 dealt with the theme of in culture at my 139 00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:25,440 control so I had to do a selection and 140 00:05:31,070 --> 00:05:28,710 then the third section I decided to talk 141 00:05:33,710 --> 00:05:31,080 about weather control geoengineering and 142 00:05:35,750 --> 00:05:33,720 how that might tie into the alien 143 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:35,760 mythology and psychological warfare and 144 00:05:39,700 --> 00:05:37,440 then of course the last section you 145 00:05:43,340 --> 00:05:39,710 can't leave out Hollywood transhumanism 146 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:43,350 mmm no you cannot and that is a great 147 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:45,690 summary you do cover a lot of 148 00:05:50,270 --> 00:05:48,090 interesting material in here like you 149 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:50,280 mentioned you kick this thing off with 150 00:05:54,470 --> 00:05:53,250 the Mafia and mobs and film I wanted to 151 00:05:56,630 --> 00:05:54,480 get deeper into that it's very 152 00:05:59,300 --> 00:05:56,640 interesting I once did an interview with 153 00:06:01,700 --> 00:05:59,310 Brian to who he who wrote the fixes in 154 00:06:04,370 --> 00:06:01,710 and he focuses on just how involved the 155 00:06:06,860 --> 00:06:04,380 mob is in the massive sports gambling 156 00:06:08,780 --> 00:06:06,870 industry a little more obvious but he 157 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:08,790 also talks about how very few outcomes 158 00:06:13,250 --> 00:06:10,650 in sports are actually organic because 159 00:06:15,410 --> 00:06:13,260 of this mob control but as you say in 160 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:15,420 the book they have also got their hands 161 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:18,330 in Hollywood right way more so than most 162 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:20,910 people might think yeah there's some 163 00:06:24,530 --> 00:06:22,710 really crazy stories about the 164 00:06:26,210 --> 00:06:24,540 relationship of Hollywood to the Mafia 165 00:06:30,050 --> 00:06:26,220 and I think everybody's kind of familiar 166 00:06:31,730 --> 00:06:30,060 with the mainline mafia films that have 167 00:06:33,590 --> 00:06:31,740 kind of gone down in history as the 168 00:06:36,530 --> 00:06:33,600 greats you know Goodfellas or the 169 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:36,540 Godfather and I wrote a fairly popular 170 00:06:40,730 --> 00:06:38,400 essay on the Godfather a few years ago 171 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:40,740 so I kind of spruced that up and added 172 00:06:44,330 --> 00:06:41,850 some more information because I came 173 00:06:47,570 --> 00:06:44,340 across recent stuff that like people 174 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:47,580 wouldn't know that for example the role 175 00:06:52,670 --> 00:06:51,510 of Al Pacino to play Michael Corleone he 176 00:06:55,850 --> 00:06:52,680 actually had to get permission from the 177 00:06:58,880 --> 00:06:55,860 Mafia to do that they had somebody else 178 00:07:01,400 --> 00:06:58,890 in mind so they had to make some deals 179 00:07:03,050 --> 00:07:01,410 basically backroom deals in some casinos 180 00:07:05,630 --> 00:07:03,060 this was actually decided in some 181 00:07:08,870 --> 00:07:05,640 casinos in Las Vegas and that actually 182 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:08,880 comes from a famous mob chronicler Gus 183 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:11,130 Russo who has a famous book on the Mafia 184 00:07:14,750 --> 00:07:13,050 who describes this whole story and the 185 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:14,760 reason I bring that up is because you 186 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:16,800 know I think last time we might have 187 00:07:21,530 --> 00:07:18,930 touched on David Lynch and Twin Peaks 188 00:07:23,510 --> 00:07:21,540 and all that and one of that analyses I 189 00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:23,520 did at David Lynch was Mahon drive and 190 00:07:26,950 --> 00:07:25,080 you have that weird scene among drive 191 00:07:29,900 --> 00:07:26,960 where this sort of little [\h__\h] dude 192 00:07:32,719 --> 00:07:29,910 behind a glass screen is deciding who 193 00:07:34,100 --> 00:07:32,729 gets what role and of course the cowboy 194 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:34,110 he later on is the sort of supernatural 195 00:07:37,220 --> 00:07:35,250 figure who 196 00:07:39,470 --> 00:07:37,230 hartley decides who gets that role in 197 00:07:42,050 --> 00:07:39,480 the film so basically have the Mafia 198 00:07:44,090 --> 00:07:42,060 deciding who gets what roles so we have 199 00:07:46,610 --> 00:07:44,100 that in Holland Drive and then I came 200 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:46,620 across an actual example document in the 201 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:48,330 Gus Russo book so I thought yeah I got a 202 00:07:51,950 --> 00:07:50,610 I've got to include that and tie it into 203 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:51,960 how you know the Godfather trilogy 204 00:07:57,770 --> 00:07:55,530 really does portray how the world really 205 00:07:59,690 --> 00:07:57,780 works that's why movies are so powerful 206 00:08:02,180 --> 00:07:59,700 in this way is that the world is 207 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:02,190 structured like global mafias basically 208 00:08:06,140 --> 00:08:04,770 running everything hmm and it is so 209 00:08:08,570 --> 00:08:06,150 interesting because it's a lot like how 210 00:08:10,820 --> 00:08:08,580 the military must sign off on any film 211 00:08:12,020 --> 00:08:10,830 that's gonna use all their toys in the 212 00:08:14,990 --> 00:08:12,030 storytelling it's why they're all 213 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:15,000 positive and you wouldn't necessarily 214 00:08:18,380 --> 00:08:16,770 think you'd need the mobs permission to 215 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:18,390 make a movie about them but they're not 216 00:08:23,420 --> 00:08:20,160 shy about killing people so it might be 217 00:08:25,970 --> 00:08:23,430 nice to get that endorsement exactly and 218 00:08:29,300 --> 00:08:25,980 since the time of the Cold War the 219 00:08:31,310 --> 00:08:29,310 various mafias were pretty closely tied 220 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:31,320 to the CIA there was actually a series 221 00:08:34,940 --> 00:08:32,640 of deals that were made around the time 222 00:08:37,310 --> 00:08:34,950 of the JFK assassination which actually 223 00:08:39,020 --> 00:08:37,320 does factor into the situation when JFK 224 00:08:40,430 --> 00:08:39,030 and what happened him not saying was 225 00:08:43,940 --> 00:08:40,440 only the mob I'm just saying there is a 226 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:43,950 mob and CIA background to that and 227 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:45,510 there's a documentary that I got he's 228 00:08:49,870 --> 00:08:47,130 actually a screenplay writer who is 229 00:08:52,310 --> 00:08:49,880 working on a new mafia film he sent me a 230 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:52,320 he said hey you need to watch this 231 00:08:56,690 --> 00:08:53,850 documentary and it was about Sam 232 00:08:58,850 --> 00:08:56,700 Giancana or they called Momo the Chicago 233 00:09:00,860 --> 00:08:58,860 mobster and it's some mainline 234 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:00,870 documentary on him if you can find that 235 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:02,970 Momo documentary but it actually has a 236 00:09:08,930 --> 00:09:05,690 lot of connections that are made between 237 00:09:10,430 --> 00:09:08,940 the Mafia and the JFK situation and so 238 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:10,440 you're absolutely right to talk about 239 00:09:14,540 --> 00:09:12,810 the approval of the intelligence 240 00:09:15,710 --> 00:09:14,550 agencies but the intelligence agencies 241 00:09:19,010 --> 00:09:15,720 are locked at the hip and I'm just 242 00:09:21,079 --> 00:09:19,020 Hollywood but also to the Mafia mm-hmm 243 00:09:23,930 --> 00:09:21,089 and kind of on this theme if you've seen 244 00:09:26,890 --> 00:09:23,940 Ozarks they use construction projects in 245 00:09:28,970 --> 00:09:26,900 that show as big drug money laundering 246 00:09:31,100 --> 00:09:28,980 operations because you can sink so much 247 00:09:33,829 --> 00:09:31,110 money into a project and it's hard to 248 00:09:35,930 --> 00:09:33,839 really qualify where it all went a 249 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:35,940 strategy I'm sure our president knows 250 00:09:41,780 --> 00:09:39,810 quite well but what yeah movie studios 251 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:41,790 they're kind of similar in that the 252 00:09:45,860 --> 00:09:44,370 budgets can be massive and sometimes you 253 00:09:48,510 --> 00:09:45,870 don't even need to produce a final 254 00:09:50,790 --> 00:09:48,520 product to make a couple million 255 00:09:53,340 --> 00:09:50,800 sound reasonable talk to us a little bit 256 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:53,350 about money laundering in Hollywood or 257 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:56,050 this idea of studios as fronts because 258 00:10:00,480 --> 00:09:57,450 there's a lot of history there right 259 00:10:02,610 --> 00:10:00,490 there was this was I had a film nerd 260 00:10:04,260 --> 00:10:02,620 friend who told me this many years ago 261 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:04,270 and when he first told me that even 262 00:10:07,770 --> 00:10:06,130 though I was all into this Hollywood 263 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:07,780 conspiracy stuff even at the time he 264 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:09,250 said you know a lot of these studios or 265 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:10,690 money laundering and I was like what are 266 00:10:14,340 --> 00:10:11,830 you talking that's crazy 267 00:10:17,010 --> 00:10:14,350 no they're not and sure enough when I 268 00:10:18,690 --> 00:10:17,020 started researching just the topic of 269 00:10:20,010 --> 00:10:18,700 backdoor connections the Hollywood 270 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:20,020 that's what comes to the fore right away 271 00:10:23,820 --> 00:10:21,670 in fact there's a guy Douglas Thompson 272 00:10:26,730 --> 00:10:23,830 he wrote a whole book the trudge is on 273 00:10:28,170 --> 00:10:26,740 this dark heart of Hollywood and you 274 00:10:30,810 --> 00:10:28,180 know he pointed out all these examples 275 00:10:33,210 --> 00:10:30,820 of situations where studios functioned 276 00:10:34,980 --> 00:10:33,220 as fronts and I think one thing to 277 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:34,990 understand is that it's not just one 278 00:10:38,940 --> 00:10:36,610 thing like a studio doesn't have to just 279 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:38,950 be a front for money laundering like it 280 00:10:42,180 --> 00:10:40,150 can function and different things 281 00:10:44,310 --> 00:10:42,190 there's different tools I mean they are 282 00:10:46,350 --> 00:10:44,320 also making a money it can be a way to 283 00:10:49,230 --> 00:10:46,360 stash money to avoid taxes it can be a 284 00:10:51,270 --> 00:10:49,240 way to funnel operations and it could 285 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:51,280 even be a cover for a black op in other 286 00:10:55,620 --> 00:10:53,650 words a movie studio or movie crew could 287 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:55,630 actually go and do something that is 288 00:10:59,670 --> 00:10:57,850 working for an ulterior purpose and 289 00:11:01,890 --> 00:10:59,680 everybody knows this now if you saw Argo 290 00:11:04,890 --> 00:11:01,900 those old plot of arghya was that this 291 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:04,900 beauty sci-fi movie that was fake but as 292 00:11:09,060 --> 00:11:06,250 an intelligence rep and that's all very 293 00:11:11,550 --> 00:11:09,070 real but we've had many cases of people 294 00:11:15,270 --> 00:11:11,560 who've been convicted Christopher a 295 00:11:16,590 --> 00:11:15,280 Bert's was convicted of using his studio 296 00:11:19,020 --> 00:11:16,600 and screenwriting and all that as a 297 00:11:20,940 --> 00:11:19,030 front for money laundering there been 298 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:20,950 cases where the FBI actually set up an 299 00:11:26,670 --> 00:11:23,860 independent film studio they put out 300 00:11:29,340 --> 00:11:26,680 films if this whole thing was just a 301 00:11:31,380 --> 00:11:29,350 front for a various FBI surveillance 302 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:31,390 operations so there's a lot of examples 303 00:11:37,740 --> 00:11:34,690 of this even drug trafficking I've been 304 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:37,750 Hollywood director ISM studios and it 305 00:11:42,380 --> 00:11:39,130 starts to make sense that you could see 306 00:11:44,820 --> 00:11:42,390 why everybody who has a reverence for 307 00:11:47,220 --> 00:11:44,830 movie makers right and so if you show up 308 00:11:49,170 --> 00:11:47,230 in your obsess none you know I'm here to 309 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:49,180 film a movie hole you're with Hollywood 310 00:11:52,890 --> 00:11:51,130 that's an easy cover right so like move 311 00:11:55,620 --> 00:11:52,900 drugs or even weapons or something like 312 00:11:57,390 --> 00:11:55,630 this mm-hmm and it really is genius 313 00:12:00,509 --> 00:11:57,400 because if someone were to tell you the 314 00:12:02,759 --> 00:12:00,519 budget of a film was 50 million verse 315 00:12:04,619 --> 00:12:02,769 a hundred and fifty million yes to the 316 00:12:06,389 --> 00:12:04,629 layman I mean that makes no difference 317 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:06,399 but that's a hundred million dollars 318 00:12:11,220 --> 00:12:09,610 different so it is kind of appealing to 319 00:12:13,259 --> 00:12:11,230 use it for that reason and you have an 320 00:12:15,809 --> 00:12:13,269 example of limelight this is one I 321 00:12:18,329 --> 00:12:15,819 didn't know but in 2006 they were busted 322 00:12:20,309 --> 00:12:18,339 as an ecstasy dealing and drug 323 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:20,319 trafficking ring and Charlie Chaplin's 324 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:21,850 granddaughter was president of that 325 00:12:28,230 --> 00:12:25,600 company yeah that one was so crazy I had 326 00:12:30,540 --> 00:12:28,240 this ticket in there and yeah yeah and 327 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:30,550 then I think after that Douglas Austin 328 00:12:36,090 --> 00:12:33,569 goes on to talk about other examples of 329 00:12:38,819 --> 00:12:36,100 mafia laundering I think he says in one 330 00:12:40,710 --> 00:12:38,829 case 200 million dollars through special 331 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:40,720 effects extravaganzas and then he goes 332 00:12:45,689 --> 00:12:42,730 on to talk about the knife for million 333 00:12:48,989 --> 00:12:45,699 dollar budget for tomb raider involved 334 00:12:50,999 --> 00:12:48,999 some very fanciful arithmetic when they 335 00:12:53,489 --> 00:12:51,009 actually came down to what was made and 336 00:12:56,699 --> 00:12:53,499 what wasn't made so yes this is a huge 337 00:12:58,319 --> 00:12:56,709 thing you start to wonder well if it's 338 00:13:00,329 --> 00:12:58,329 that crazy in these examples it's 339 00:13:01,499 --> 00:13:00,339 probably crazy in other examples like 340 00:13:03,210 --> 00:13:01,509 what else was going on yeah maybe 341 00:13:07,129 --> 00:13:03,220 something was going on with the Netflix 342 00:13:09,889 --> 00:13:07,139 series narcos mm-hmm this guy gets 343 00:13:13,019 --> 00:13:09,899 killed while he's scouting for locations 344 00:13:15,210 --> 00:13:13,029 again I'm just speculating here but we 345 00:13:16,590 --> 00:13:15,220 start to realize that all these worlds 346 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:16,600 connect you know when I did the first 347 00:13:22,949 --> 00:13:20,050 book it was about sex Colts Hollywood 348 00:13:23,639 --> 00:13:22,959 secret societies now we're starting to 349 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:23,649 see oh wait a minute 350 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:25,569 guess what cartels they also factor in 351 00:13:30,119 --> 00:13:27,850 this the Mafia factors into this and 352 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:30,129 it's corporations grandma what is a 353 00:13:34,139 --> 00:13:32,170 movie studio what are these giant 354 00:13:36,150 --> 00:13:34,149 studios but private corporations so 355 00:13:40,619 --> 00:13:36,160 again all of these worlds intertwine and 356 00:13:42,030 --> 00:13:40,629 intersect mm hmm hmm and I don't know if 357 00:13:44,369 --> 00:13:42,040 you're familiar with that classic 358 00:13:46,499 --> 00:13:44,379 b-movie the room but that's always been 359 00:13:50,100 --> 00:13:46,509 the speculation with that Tommy Wiseau 360 00:13:51,780 --> 00:13:50,110 guy right right yeah people call it you 361 00:13:53,819 --> 00:13:51,790 know the worst movie ever made right up 362 00:13:55,619 --> 00:13:53,829 there with plan 9 but it has a six 363 00:13:58,110 --> 00:13:55,629 million dollar budget and it looks like 364 00:14:00,299 --> 00:13:58,120 it was filmed just in an abandoned house 365 00:14:02,069 --> 00:14:00,309 somewhere it's still kind of a mystery 366 00:14:04,019 --> 00:14:02,079 where this weirdo got the money and the 367 00:14:06,509 --> 00:14:04,029 big speculation is that he was connected 368 00:14:08,610 --> 00:14:06,519 that's a great point yeah it happens in 369 00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:08,620 be movies for sure I think in fact a lot 370 00:14:13,430 --> 00:14:10,800 of B movies I did an interview with 371 00:14:16,220 --> 00:14:13,440 mark hacker a couple years ago and we 372 00:14:17,540 --> 00:14:16,230 were discussing movie studios as 373 00:14:19,699 --> 00:14:17,550 intelligence fronts and he wrote an 374 00:14:21,740 --> 00:14:19,709 essay about a whole studio that was set 375 00:14:23,990 --> 00:14:21,750 up in the UK that was run by the Soviets 376 00:14:26,019 --> 00:14:24,000 back during the Cold War and in that 377 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:26,029 interview we got to talking about a 378 00:14:31,610 --> 00:14:30,240 movie that starred Dolph Lundgren bridge 379 00:14:33,889 --> 00:14:31,620 scorpion that's the name of it I think 380 00:14:35,930 --> 00:14:33,899 it's in the late 80s maybe 1990s 381 00:14:38,980 --> 00:14:35,940 somewhere in there just a scrappy kind 382 00:14:41,570 --> 00:14:38,990 of special-operations dumb movie from 383 00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:41,580 1990 but the movie appears have been a 384 00:14:44,990 --> 00:14:43,440 kind of front for some intelligence 385 00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:45,000 operation it was filmed somewhere where 386 00:14:48,740 --> 00:14:46,560 the CIA had you know a particular 387 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:48,750 interest at the time and one of the 388 00:14:52,699 --> 00:14:50,370 reasons we know that is that the 389 00:14:54,620 --> 00:14:52,709 producer think it's the producer I mean 390 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:54,630 I'm going from two years ago memory but 391 00:14:59,600 --> 00:14:56,250 the producer was like Elliott it was 392 00:15:02,690 --> 00:14:59,610 Elliot Abrams from you know a Valerie 393 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:02,700 Plame and neocon Fame why is Elliott 394 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:04,770 Abrams the producer of this ridiculous 395 00:15:09,620 --> 00:15:07,170 Dolph Lundgren movie and then come to 396 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:09,630 find out other movies like what's the 397 00:15:14,540 --> 00:15:12,570 movie about the guy who's the track star 398 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:14,550 you know it was popular in the 80s and I 399 00:15:21,139 --> 00:15:17,370 can think of the theme song Bom Bom Bom 400 00:15:22,970 --> 00:15:21,149 Bom Bom I think I skipped most track 401 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:22,980 star movies to tell you the truth I know 402 00:15:28,010 --> 00:15:25,290 I don't care about that this guy was 403 00:15:29,569 --> 00:15:28,020 like the Olympics guy really famous 404 00:15:31,780 --> 00:15:29,579 Olympics guy and I think the story is 405 00:15:33,889 --> 00:15:31,790 that he was a like he wouldn't run on 406 00:15:36,290 --> 00:15:33,899 Saturdays or Sundays for religious 407 00:15:39,170 --> 00:15:36,300 reasons it was a big award-winning movie 408 00:15:43,460 --> 00:15:39,180 in the 80s anyway guess who was the 409 00:15:45,199 --> 00:15:43,470 producer on that dodi fayed so here we 410 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:45,209 have like dodi fayed of you know 411 00:15:49,579 --> 00:15:47,790 Princess Diana Fame and you start to 412 00:15:51,769 --> 00:15:49,589 realize why are these people producers 413 00:15:53,180 --> 00:15:51,779 of movies it's because they're involved 414 00:15:55,460 --> 00:15:53,190 in all of the stuff and the movie 415 00:15:58,370 --> 00:15:55,470 studios are a big part of that yeah it 416 00:16:00,530 --> 00:15:58,380 even filters into seemingly innocent 417 00:16:02,990 --> 00:16:00,540 things that you find in the realms of TV 418 00:16:05,750 --> 00:16:03,000 like Cupcake Wars or Julia Child's 419 00:16:07,850 --> 00:16:05,760 apparently she was connected in some 420 00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:07,860 regard why would somebody involved in a 421 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:10,500 cooking show have a background in 422 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:12,810 intelligence or why would that be 423 00:16:16,610 --> 00:16:14,940 something that intelligence puts them 424 00:16:18,260 --> 00:16:16,620 into you know where where's that 425 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:18,270 connection getting made 426 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:20,610 yes she was a member of course in the 427 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:23,010 OSS Julia Child was and that's the 428 00:16:28,460 --> 00:16:25,890 nascent CIA surprise search in CA that 429 00:16:30,650 --> 00:16:28,470 the British intelligence set up for the 430 00:16:33,260 --> 00:16:30,660 u.s. it was actually Ian Fleming of all 431 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:33,270 people William Stephenson who came and 432 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:35,010 on the part of the British Empire kind 433 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:38,370 of negotiated with Bill Donovan in 1942 434 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:40,770 how to set up this version of what 435 00:16:43,130 --> 00:16:42,570 British involvement said and it was very 436 00:16:45,769 --> 00:16:43,140 successful 437 00:16:48,740 --> 00:16:45,779 again morphs into not supporting the CIA 438 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:48,750 so when you understand that this stuff 439 00:16:52,610 --> 00:16:50,850 is not about a lot of surveillance and 440 00:16:56,150 --> 00:16:52,620 spying per se that's one little aspect 441 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:56,160 of what intelligence stuff is but a 442 00:16:59,810 --> 00:16:57,690 bigger part of it is culture creation 443 00:17:02,680 --> 00:16:59,820 and that's much more important to the 444 00:17:05,390 --> 00:17:02,690 global planners to the big elite than 445 00:17:07,309 --> 00:17:05,400 just surveillance especially nowadays 446 00:17:08,270 --> 00:17:07,319 with everybody willingly putting all 447 00:17:11,230 --> 00:17:08,280 their information online that 448 00:17:14,270 --> 00:17:11,240 surveillance is less important than is 449 00:17:15,530 --> 00:17:14,280 culture creation so that's what most 450 00:17:17,419 --> 00:17:15,540 people don't understand about the CIA 451 00:17:20,449 --> 00:17:17,429 and the OSS is that it was about culture 452 00:17:22,429 --> 00:17:20,459 creation from the get-go and when you 453 00:17:24,350 --> 00:17:22,439 look at it that way well food is a big 454 00:17:27,470 --> 00:17:24,360 part of culture isn't it well yeah so 455 00:17:30,290 --> 00:17:27,480 that makes a perfect vehicle for a 456 00:17:31,630 --> 00:17:30,300 person to also be a spy or to be 457 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:31,640 involved in that kind of an operation 458 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:35,130 because in many ways it can buy to cover 459 00:17:37,910 --> 00:17:36,690 you know if you're going to all these 460 00:17:40,790 --> 00:17:37,920 different countries it may be somebody 461 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:40,800 like Bourdain perhaps yeah they go to 462 00:17:44,690 --> 00:17:42,210 all these countries and their cover is 463 00:17:46,340 --> 00:17:44,700 oh I'm here just to film my food show by 464 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:46,350 the way I've got to go meet with you 465 00:17:49,460 --> 00:17:47,730 know the president of the country for a 466 00:17:54,110 --> 00:17:49,470 certain reason maybe and then at the 467 00:17:55,310 --> 00:17:54,120 same time food is culture and so you 468 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:55,320 know I was reading a book that was 469 00:17:59,560 --> 00:17:57,090 talking about from the globalist 470 00:18:02,870 --> 00:17:59,570 perspective fast food was actually 471 00:18:06,770 --> 00:18:02,880 engineered for the purposes of getting 472 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:06,780 people away from eating a family meal so 473 00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:08,130 even though Julia Child might not have 474 00:18:11,210 --> 00:18:10,080 been when she was in the OSS and then 475 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:11,220 having her cooking show he might have 476 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:13,110 been promoting fast food what I'm 477 00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:16,290 getting at is that from the perspective 478 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:17,760 of the intelligence agencies or the 479 00:18:21,980 --> 00:18:20,130 Pentagon or the social planners you 480 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:21,990 definitely want to control food I mean 481 00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:24,090 Bertrand Russell says diet is of the 482 00:18:29,390 --> 00:18:26,400 utmost importance for control and a part 483 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:29,400 of the global elite yeah I think that 484 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:30,570 makes a lot of sense even though it's 485 00:18:33,670 --> 00:18:31,650 not something people 486 00:18:36,290 --> 00:18:33,680 think about often and by the way to 487 00:18:39,650 --> 00:18:36,300 chariots of fire that's the famous 80s 488 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:39,660 movie about the runner Oh charity a fire 489 00:18:44,450 --> 00:18:43,170 yes and I do know that title and kind of 490 00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:44,460 on the themes we're talking about if 491 00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:45,960 you've ever seen that movie confessions 492 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:48,000 of a dangerous mind based on the book 493 00:18:51,980 --> 00:18:50,130 written by Chuck Barris now I mean 494 00:18:53,630 --> 00:18:51,990 obviously this is in the realm of comedy 495 00:18:57,260 --> 00:18:53,640 but yet sometimes there's truth in 496 00:19:00,200 --> 00:18:57,270 comedy but he wrote that book about the 497 00:19:02,390 --> 00:19:00,210 idea that when he was the host on a show 498 00:19:04,670 --> 00:19:02,400 like the dating game he's taken these 499 00:19:05,330 --> 00:19:04,680 contestants on international trips as a 500 00:19:07,490 --> 00:19:05,340 chaperone 501 00:19:09,770 --> 00:19:07,500 and then he's also moonlighting with 502 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:09,780 some kind of covert ops in that same 503 00:19:14,180 --> 00:19:12,510 kind of way love that movie that was 504 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:14,190 really the first one when I was younger 505 00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:16,770 that brought to mind the idea that whoa 506 00:19:22,790 --> 00:19:18,720 these these could be giant cover 507 00:19:24,350 --> 00:19:22,800 operations yeah so this is a big George 508 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:24,360 Clooney film I think he's connected to 509 00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:26,850 the production company that made the 510 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:28,080 confessions of a dangerous mind if I 511 00:19:32,780 --> 00:19:30,480 recall yeah he did directed I wasn't 512 00:19:36,490 --> 00:19:32,790 aware of that exactly yeah and so 513 00:19:39,410 --> 00:19:36,500 Clooney my suspicion about that is that 514 00:19:41,630 --> 00:19:39,420 Clooney himself is most likely worked 515 00:19:43,370 --> 00:19:41,640 for the CIA I mean he when you get to 516 00:19:45,740 --> 00:19:43,380 that level you know you've got Angelina 517 00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:45,750 Jolie being directly involved in the CFR 518 00:19:50,450 --> 00:19:48,080 I think it's very reasonable given 519 00:19:52,430 --> 00:19:50,460 Clooney's history and his activities 520 00:19:54,170 --> 00:19:52,440 that he's probably involved in them as 521 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:54,180 well Ben Affleck Ben Affleck pretty open 522 00:19:59,960 --> 00:19:58,050 about Hollywood's full of CIA so I think 523 00:20:01,790 --> 00:19:59,970 maybe Queenie was making that movie 524 00:20:03,610 --> 00:20:01,800 because he maybe he related to a little 525 00:20:06,620 --> 00:20:03,620 bit I'm not saying he's an assassin 526 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:06,630 right that from that vantage point where 527 00:20:12,170 --> 00:20:08,960 Clooney is at in terms of mega a Lister 528 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:12,180 global star he can understand 529 00:20:18,110 --> 00:20:15,450 and he's telegraphing to us exactly you 530 00:20:19,820 --> 00:20:18,120 know how the world really works how it's 531 00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:19,830 not like you think even actors are not 532 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:23,280 always what you think many many of them 533 00:20:28,580 --> 00:20:26,250 had been spies all the way back to Errol 534 00:20:31,070 --> 00:20:28,590 Flynn all the way back to some of the 535 00:20:33,530 --> 00:20:31,080 biggest stars even under Stalin one of 536 00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:33,540 the top actresses of Soviet Union I 537 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:35,280 can't remember her name up top my head 538 00:20:38,030 --> 00:20:37,530 but she was Stalin's like right-hand spy 539 00:20:41,090 --> 00:20:38,040 woman 540 00:20:43,529 --> 00:20:41,100 it's pretty crazy yeah and it also could 541 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:43,539 be an example of the 542 00:20:48,269 --> 00:20:45,850 thing where they take a template for 543 00:20:50,639 --> 00:20:48,279 something very real and they make it a 544 00:20:52,259 --> 00:20:50,649 silly example like Chuck Barris in the 545 00:20:54,509 --> 00:20:52,269 dating game and then when people hear 546 00:20:56,849 --> 00:20:54,519 about it as a reality they're like oh 547 00:20:58,349 --> 00:20:56,859 well that's that [\h__\h] we saw in that 548 00:21:00,840 --> 00:20:58,359 movie there's no way that kind of thing 549 00:21:02,489 --> 00:21:00,850 is true they just kind of take the air 550 00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:02,499 out of the idea even though it might be 551 00:21:07,289 --> 00:21:04,960 a legitimate thing that happens in other 552 00:21:09,690 --> 00:21:07,299 cases outside of the one where they're 553 00:21:10,379 --> 00:21:09,700 making a joke out of it it does have 554 00:21:13,139 --> 00:21:10,389 that yet 555 00:21:14,909 --> 00:21:13,149 disarming kind of can throw you for a 556 00:21:16,619 --> 00:21:14,919 loop initially when you start to see it 557 00:21:18,089 --> 00:21:16,629 in reality and you've been conditioned 558 00:21:19,859 --> 00:21:18,099 to it that really I think is the main 559 00:21:20,460 --> 00:21:19,869 point of predicted programming what 560 00:21:22,859 --> 00:21:20,470 you're talking about 561 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:22,869 definitely plays into that because on a 562 00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:24,369 subconscious level and it had actually 563 00:21:28,139 --> 00:21:26,080 has been studied on a subconscious level 564 00:21:29,519 --> 00:21:28,149 they studied Hitchcock films on a 565 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:29,529 subconscious level to see how it 566 00:21:32,909 --> 00:21:31,450 affected the audience back when he 567 00:21:34,919 --> 00:21:32,919 premiered psycho so they've been at this 568 00:21:37,649 --> 00:21:34,929 for a long time and so they're 569 00:21:39,419 --> 00:21:37,659 definitely aware of how a person 570 00:21:41,310 --> 00:21:39,429 perceiving something that's fiction 571 00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:41,320 can alter their perception when it 572 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:43,809 becomes reality that's again a big part 573 00:21:48,719 --> 00:21:46,809 of how you conditioned people we can 574 00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:48,729 talk about the esoteric element to 575 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:50,710 predict a programming I think it is 576 00:21:54,029 --> 00:21:52,330 there I think a lot of people who are 577 00:21:56,580 --> 00:21:54,039 involved in predictive programming do 578 00:21:59,369 --> 00:21:56,590 have esoteric type worldviews but just 579 00:22:01,649 --> 00:21:59,379 on a practical level functions very well 580 00:22:03,719 --> 00:22:01,659 to conduct a slight people and prep them 581 00:22:05,279 --> 00:22:03,729 for events that come in the future so I 582 00:22:07,129 --> 00:22:05,289 think you're right to stick to the 583 00:22:11,369 --> 00:22:07,139 practical purpose of why it's done 584 00:22:13,289 --> 00:22:11,379 mm-hmm and so let's get into probably 585 00:22:14,999 --> 00:22:13,299 the biggest film franchise about the 586 00:22:16,409 --> 00:22:15,009 Mafia let's talk about the Godfather you 587 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:16,419 spend a lot of time on it in the book 588 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,570 what might people not know about it or 589 00:22:24,539 --> 00:22:21,840 what about this trilogy do you see as 590 00:22:26,609 --> 00:22:24,549 agenda driven well there's a lot of it 591 00:22:28,289 --> 00:22:26,619 later so I think one who wrote his novel 592 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:28,299 actually interviewed a whole bunch of 593 00:22:35,489 --> 00:22:33,570 living Don's so the book is a mix of the 594 00:22:39,089 --> 00:22:35,499 perspective of a lot of different 595 00:22:43,049 --> 00:22:39,099 mobsters so it's not just one guy but it 596 00:22:45,419 --> 00:22:43,059 is essentially the Sicilian Mafia but 597 00:22:47,519 --> 00:22:45,429 again he had to get permission not just 598 00:22:49,499 --> 00:22:47,529 from the Italian dogs but he also had to 599 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:49,509 get permission from Jewish mafia to do 600 00:22:53,879 --> 00:22:51,570 the move yet for the way that he did and 601 00:22:56,909 --> 00:22:53,889 that's covered in ghosts Russo's book 602 00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:56,919 but the aspect that most people don't 603 00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:57,720 realize 604 00:23:03,139 --> 00:23:00,960 there's as the trilogy progresses 605 00:23:04,850 --> 00:23:03,149 there's actually more revelation as it 606 00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:04,860 moves into parts two and three about the 607 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:07,080 real world now most critics obviously 608 00:23:11,749 --> 00:23:09,450 prefer port one or two is still 609 00:23:13,249 --> 00:23:11,759 considered a great film a lot of people 610 00:23:15,169 --> 00:23:13,259 are kind of down on part three but 611 00:23:16,970 --> 00:23:15,179 actually again by the time of part three 612 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:16,980 you're getting some pretty heavy doses 613 00:23:22,879 --> 00:23:20,730 of secret society backdoor key to type 614 00:23:24,110 --> 00:23:22,889 stuff that relates to Gladio so if 615 00:23:26,659 --> 00:23:24,120 you're familiar with Operation Gladio 616 00:23:28,820 --> 00:23:26,669 this was the stay behind networks the 617 00:23:31,460 --> 00:23:28,830 CIA and NATO had in place in the Soviet 618 00:23:32,779 --> 00:23:31,470 Union during the Cold War and this was 619 00:23:35,210 --> 00:23:32,789 of course supposedly so that these 620 00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,220 Soviets communists wouldn't take over 621 00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:37,440 Europe so what they had was these cell 622 00:23:43,610 --> 00:23:39,120 networks that basically were terrorists 623 00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:43,620 and they again were blackops guys that 624 00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:45,929 were recruited as paramilitary out of 625 00:23:53,180 --> 00:23:49,529 the Italian fascist lodges in Italy the 626 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:53,190 Grand Orient fascist lodges called p2 so 627 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:55,110 they would do terror operations they 628 00:24:00,350 --> 00:23:57,330 would do all kinds of crazy stuff false 629 00:24:02,779 --> 00:24:00,360 flag type stuff to blame the commies in 630 00:24:04,879 --> 00:24:02,789 the Soviets this actually plays into 631 00:24:06,980 --> 00:24:04,889 part three and most people don't catch 632 00:24:09,379 --> 00:24:06,990 that because the Andy Garcia character 633 00:24:11,299 --> 00:24:09,389 when Michael Corleone is being taken 634 00:24:14,659 --> 00:24:11,309 down and the figure who plays Pope John 635 00:24:16,669 --> 00:24:14,669 Paul doe first in the movie when they're 636 00:24:20,570 --> 00:24:16,679 being taken down Andy Garcia says you 637 00:24:23,509 --> 00:24:20,580 know this is p2 and it's a very sort of 638 00:24:25,369 --> 00:24:23,519 kind of off-the-cuff thing that nd 639 00:24:27,169 --> 00:24:25,379 Arceus says because he's if you don't 640 00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:27,179 recall he's taking over from Michael 641 00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:29,700 Corleone he's the next dawn for the 642 00:24:33,580 --> 00:24:31,860 family and what we see is really the 643 00:24:36,049 --> 00:24:33,590 downfall of the family there because 644 00:24:37,970 --> 00:24:36,059 Michael has moved into international 645 00:24:41,149 --> 00:24:37,980 relations he's taken his front and 646 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:41,159 actually in partner he creates an NGO he 647 00:24:45,980 --> 00:24:43,529 creates a tax-free foundation that's 648 00:24:47,389 --> 00:24:45,990 involved in land deals so he's moved 649 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:47,399 from the big time he's not just a 650 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:50,730 small-time family mobster in New York 651 00:24:54,590 --> 00:24:52,289 he's actually moved into global 652 00:24:56,990 --> 00:24:54,600 operations and this is again telling for 653 00:24:59,749 --> 00:24:57,000 how the world really works and how it 654 00:25:01,580 --> 00:24:59,759 ties into not just secret societies and 655 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:01,590 intelligence operations like p2 or 656 00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:03,690 Gladio but actually how it ties into 657 00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:06,600 international banking NGOs and think 658 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:09,419 tanks right I actually love that about 659 00:25:14,610 --> 00:25:11,530 it and maybe 660 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:14,620 it didn't come across as entertaining 661 00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:17,049 maybe it's a little drier but that is 662 00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:18,640 kind of the path and I like that the 663 00:25:22,529 --> 00:25:21,039 third one goes into that and in that 664 00:25:24,570 --> 00:25:22,539 section of your book you talked a lot 665 00:25:27,180 --> 00:25:24,580 about the Catholic Church of course yes 666 00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:27,190 right and I know you are an Orthodox 667 00:25:31,799 --> 00:25:29,200 Christian but you know a lot about the 668 00:25:34,110 --> 00:25:31,809 geopolitics of the Vatican and you say 669 00:25:36,539 --> 00:25:34,120 the co-opting of the Vatican is much 670 00:25:39,419 --> 00:25:36,549 earlier than the Vatican to conspiracy 671 00:25:41,270 --> 00:25:39,429 most Catholics adhere to can you break 672 00:25:44,610 --> 00:25:41,280 that down for us a bit what is the 673 00:25:46,860 --> 00:25:44,620 conventional conspiracy and what would 674 00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:46,870 you point to that leads you to think 675 00:25:50,909 --> 00:25:49,030 that it was actually co-opted even 676 00:25:53,789 --> 00:25:50,919 before that yeah it's a great question 677 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:53,799 basically the traditional conspiracy you 678 00:25:58,110 --> 00:25:55,600 could say is that by the time the 679 00:26:00,930 --> 00:25:58,120 Vatican - a whole bunch of freemasons 680 00:26:03,810 --> 00:26:00,940 Satanists aluminous and all manner of 681 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:03,820 nefarious groups had made their way into 682 00:26:08,180 --> 00:26:06,130 the Vatican and into power structure 683 00:26:10,860 --> 00:26:08,190 they had captured a lot of the Cardinals 684 00:26:14,370 --> 00:26:10,870 people will typically point to corn hole 685 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:14,380 ramp Allah who around the turn of the 686 00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:17,200 century turned the 20th century was 687 00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:19,120 actually in the OTO and Colonel the 688 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:20,799 story is at least that Colonel Ram Pula 689 00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:24,730 almost was made Pope at that time his 690 00:26:29,310 --> 00:26:27,429 election was actually blocked though by 691 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:29,320 I think the Hungarian Emperor at the 692 00:26:34,830 --> 00:26:32,770 time so this line of reasoning says that 693 00:26:36,899 --> 00:26:34,840 well what happened at Vatican 2 was that 694 00:26:39,390 --> 00:26:36,909 they essentially came out of the closet 695 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:39,400 with their victorious control of the 696 00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:41,950 office of the papacy and so ever since 697 00:26:46,010 --> 00:26:43,600 that time you've had this commandeering 698 00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:46,020 which is turning the Vatican into a 699 00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:49,600 global network for the promotion of an 700 00:26:54,060 --> 00:26:51,039 apostate kind of new world religion 701 00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:54,070 that's the conventional conspiracy on 702 00:26:57,659 --> 00:26:55,720 what happened in the 20th century to the 703 00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:57,669 Roman Catholic Church but there's a 704 00:27:00,930 --> 00:26:59,679 deeper picture here that most people are 705 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:00,940 aware of and this has really been 706 00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:03,970 detailed in an academic way by a 707 00:27:08,820 --> 00:27:06,159 traditional Catholic himself named David 708 00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:08,830 wim hof who has put out a book about 709 00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:10,630 John Courtney Murray and the subversion 710 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:12,880 of the church and what he shows is that 711 00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:16,330 it's not really a conglomeration of 712 00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:18,280 Mason's per se there is a Masonic 713 00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:19,600 element to the subversion of the 714 00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:21,520 Catholic Church but the real power 715 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:24,370 structure that was able to subvert the 716 00:27:27,570 --> 00:27:25,030 Catholic Church 717 00:27:29,870 --> 00:27:27,580 century was the sea okay and they did 718 00:27:32,850 --> 00:27:29,880 this to the auspices of the Cold War and 719 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:32,860 when I read that it really resonated 720 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:34,090 with a lot of things I had read in the 721 00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:36,130 past about how John Paul the second 722 00:27:40,740 --> 00:27:37,900 actually had weekly meetings I think was 723 00:27:43,290 --> 00:27:40,750 weekly with William Colby and they were 724 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:43,300 talking about how to break down the wall 725 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:46,890 how to engineer the convergence between 726 00:27:51,570 --> 00:27:50,170 Eastern Soviet bloc communism and 727 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:51,580 Western capitalism and so there was a 728 00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,010 meeting at Malta and I think 1988 729 00:27:58,260 --> 00:27:56,080 between Bush Senior John Paul the second 730 00:28:01,470 --> 00:27:58,270 and Gorbachev and this really signified 731 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:01,480 the fall of the Soviet Union and then of 732 00:28:04,290 --> 00:28:02,890 course everybody knows about the bankers 733 00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:04,300 kind of coming in and raping Russia 734 00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:06,820 after this again all engineered by 735 00:28:15,250 --> 00:28:12,940 Larry Summers the Clinton crew and all 736 00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:15,260 that that's who was behind the raping of 737 00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:18,320 Russia in the 90s but it was preceded by 738 00:28:24,430 --> 00:28:21,049 this operation of these meetings between 739 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:24,440 Bush Senior and Gorbachev and John Paul 740 00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:27,010 the second so I think it's very easily 741 00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:29,529 demonstrable that it's not just 742 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:32,809 theological ideology that drove the 743 00:28:36,370 --> 00:28:34,850 events of Vatican 2 and on top of that 744 00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:36,380 you can go back further 745 00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:38,510 I think Hoffman has documented in his 746 00:28:43,450 --> 00:28:40,390 book a cult Renaissance Church of Rome 747 00:28:45,370 --> 00:28:43,460 that the subversion on the part of the 748 00:28:47,649 --> 00:28:45,380 Roman Catholic Church can extend all the 749 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:47,659 way back to the Renaissance because you 750 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:50,539 had these really corrupt worship popes 751 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:52,250 which everybody kind of knows about 752 00:28:56,409 --> 00:28:53,690 they've been making like Showtime and 753 00:28:58,509 --> 00:28:56,419 HBO shows about these Borgia popes and 754 00:29:00,279 --> 00:28:58,519 they would castrate boys back then to 755 00:29:02,649 --> 00:29:00,289 sing in their choir and the Pope has 756 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:02,659 like private choir of castrated choir 757 00:29:06,850 --> 00:29:04,490 boys which I mean to me is completely 758 00:29:08,110 --> 00:29:06,860 psychotic but yeah but you know when you 759 00:29:09,310 --> 00:29:08,120 start to think about it like that it's 760 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:09,320 like well now wait a minute maybe this 761 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:11,450 kind of corruption didn't just begin 762 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:13,610 with you know recent Vatican to Liberal 763 00:29:16,990 --> 00:29:15,289 development it's in the Roman College 764 00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:17,000 maybe this goes back you know a thousand 765 00:29:21,009 --> 00:29:18,950 years ago yeah they say Michael 766 00:29:22,990 --> 00:29:21,019 Jackson's dad had him chemically 767 00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:23,000 castrated so he would keep it always I 768 00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:24,409 mean you got to keep that money train 769 00:29:29,639 --> 00:29:26,149 going if you got a golden goose laying 770 00:29:31,419 --> 00:29:29,649 golden eggs and haha I guess you just 771 00:29:35,620 --> 00:29:31,429 disintegrate their generals with 772 00:29:37,539 --> 00:29:35,630 chemicals and also to the banking side 773 00:29:39,850 --> 00:29:37,549 of it too I mean everybody karna has 774 00:29:41,409 --> 00:29:39,860 your special ear in the conspiracy world 775 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:41,419 you've heard a little bit about the 776 00:29:47,049 --> 00:29:44,210 Banco D'Ambrosio perhaps and the vatican 777 00:29:50,139 --> 00:29:47,059 bank scandal where certain bankers ended 778 00:29:53,289 --> 00:29:50,149 up hanging in a masonic pose upside down 779 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:53,299 from a bridge Blackfriars Bridge this is 780 00:29:57,490 --> 00:29:55,010 a famous ritual murder that related 781 00:29:58,779 --> 00:29:57,500 directly to the assassination of John 782 00:30:00,700 --> 00:29:58,789 Pope and I do think he was assassinated 783 00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:00,710 the assassination of John Paul the first 784 00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:03,590 after 33 days of being Pope I don't 785 00:30:08,259 --> 00:30:05,120 think that's accidental that he was Pope 786 00:30:10,269 --> 00:30:08,269 for 32 days and one was assassinated but 787 00:30:12,490 --> 00:30:10,279 that's also in Godfather 3 in fact the 788 00:30:14,610 --> 00:30:12,500 character Roberto Calvi is pictured in 789 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:14,620 the film you see him assassinated and 790 00:30:18,730 --> 00:30:16,330 real-world 791 00:30:20,590 --> 00:30:18,740 assassination here he this guy actually 792 00:30:21,610 --> 00:30:20,600 was hanging upside I think it was in the 793 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:21,620 death boats you know if you're familiar 794 00:30:24,770 --> 00:30:23,450 with the tarot card or the death pose 795 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:24,780 with the guy's leg hanging 796 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:26,970 mm-hmm that's how he was hanging if I 797 00:30:33,170 --> 00:30:29,490 recall so that was definitely a hit it 798 00:30:35,780 --> 00:30:33,180 was probably a p2 hit and pretty well 799 00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:35,790 known but the Vatican Bank scandal shows 800 00:30:39,710 --> 00:30:37,500 us that guess what the Vatican Bank 801 00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:39,720 wasn't just a problem that popped into 802 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:42,960 existence in the 20th century by public 803 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:44,610 admission the Rothschilds have been 804 00:30:48,860 --> 00:30:45,930 running the Vatican Bank all the way 805 00:30:50,090 --> 00:30:48,870 back to the 1700s and I don't think it 806 00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:50,100 just begins with the Rothschilds I think 807 00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,200 you can go back you know again go back 808 00:30:56,180 --> 00:30:54,480 to these Borgia Pope's I mean there's 809 00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:56,190 tremendous corruption back them and 810 00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:57,600 everybody knows 811 00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,130 [Music] 812 00:31:02,509 --> 00:31:01,200 so interesting and something I didn't 813 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:02,519 expect to see in the book was a 814 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:05,730 breakdown of your thoughts on the Marian 815 00:31:09,980 --> 00:31:08,490 apparition event Our Lady of fátima you 816 00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:09,990 got a pretty interesting take on that 817 00:31:15,529 --> 00:31:12,960 how do you interpret that saga I came to 818 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:15,539 this conclusion because I did for many 819 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:17,130 years go to a traditional Catholic 820 00:31:20,419 --> 00:31:18,809 Church so I was kind of in that mindset 821 00:31:22,430 --> 00:31:20,429 I know what it's like to be locked into 822 00:31:24,860 --> 00:31:22,440 that box and to read everything from 823 00:31:26,299 --> 00:31:24,870 that limited perspective and one of the 824 00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:26,309 things of course that they will always 825 00:31:31,549 --> 00:31:28,830 point to is this great vast miracle 826 00:31:32,749 --> 00:31:31,559 supposedly of Fatima and I thought it 827 00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:32,759 was appropriate to stick it in there 828 00:31:37,999 --> 00:31:36,000 just because it ties in so clearly to 829 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:38,009 the Cold War again I mean I does at 830 00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:39,840 Fatima precedes the Cold War but what 831 00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:41,279 happens to the Roman Catholic Church is 832 00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:43,679 when mom points out in his book John 833 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:46,230 Courtney Marie and the CIA and the 834 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:48,750 doctrinal warfare program that took over 835 00:31:51,950 --> 00:31:50,070 the Catholic Church and such at what his 836 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:51,960 book is about John Courtney marries one 837 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:53,370 of the things theologians present at 838 00:31:58,279 --> 00:31:56,970 Vatican 2 but what happens is the 839 00:32:00,490 --> 00:31:58,289 Catholic Church becomes a tool of 840 00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:00,500 Americanism and the CIA to promote 841 00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:03,899 American ideas which are then supposedly 842 00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,240 identified with the Roman Catholic 843 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:08,159 Church across the globe it literally 844 00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,690 becomes this engine to promote this 845 00:32:13,129 --> 00:32:11,519 stuff and even though a lot of people 846 00:32:15,169 --> 00:32:13,139 were sincere they thought oh yes we 847 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:15,179 gotta fight two godless Soviet empire 848 00:32:19,399 --> 00:32:17,610 and I'm not saying that we're good I 849 00:32:22,129 --> 00:32:19,409 think it's again a dialectic at work 850 00:32:24,139 --> 00:32:22,139 here what happens is that they start 851 00:32:25,639 --> 00:32:24,149 turning out movies Catholic movies get 852 00:32:29,710 --> 00:32:25,649 turned out all throughout this period 853 00:32:32,899 --> 00:32:29,720 and we have to go back to Fatima because 854 00:32:34,999 --> 00:32:32,909 when Mary supposedly appears at Fatima 855 00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:35,009 and gives us warning of the prediction 856 00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:36,480 of World War one 857 00:32:43,460 --> 00:32:40,070 I think it's curious that her 858 00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:43,470 explanation of why Russia has to be 859 00:32:48,409 --> 00:32:46,799 stopped is because of the errors of 860 00:32:50,330 --> 00:32:48,419 communism that are going to be promoted 861 00:32:52,580 --> 00:32:50,340 from Russia is what the operation 862 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:52,590 supposedly says but she doesn't mention 863 00:32:58,669 --> 00:32:55,970 that Russia's errors come from England 864 00:33:01,249 --> 00:32:58,679 it's the Atlantis's power bloc that 865 00:33:02,990 --> 00:33:01,259 exports the bankers in England and 866 00:33:04,490 --> 00:33:03,000 that's who exports Marxism to Russia 867 00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:04,500 from London to Russia so when that's 868 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:07,320 exported you know Mary just forgot to 869 00:33:11,419 --> 00:33:09,330 mention this but what we see is that 870 00:33:13,010 --> 00:33:11,429 this is a targeted apparition that 871 00:33:15,130 --> 00:33:13,020 specifically makes Rush 872 00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:15,140 into the bad guy and surprise surprise 873 00:33:21,050 --> 00:33:17,880 the two chief enemies of the Western 874 00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:21,060 Empire the Atlantis's Empire of the 20th 875 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:23,310 century our Russia and Germany so it 876 00:33:27,020 --> 00:33:24,690 just happens to be the case that the 877 00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:27,030 apparition targets more the two chief 878 00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:29,550 enemies of the Western elite power 879 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:31,260 structure no I think it's engineered 880 00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:33,210 that was engineered for geostrategic 881 00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:34,260 purposes 882 00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:36,000 it fits perfectly into the great game 883 00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:37,500 that's exactly what the great game is 884 00:33:44,150 --> 00:33:40,950 about getting rid of Russia so that's my 885 00:33:47,210 --> 00:33:44,160 take on Fatima and I found CIA 886 00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:47,220 discussions where in famous books Victor 887 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:48,630 marchetti's book they talk about how to 888 00:33:53,630 --> 00:33:51,840 stage apparitions to immobilize the 889 00:33:54,940 --> 00:33:53,640 local populations for the purpose of 890 00:33:58,370 --> 00:33:54,950 geopolitical ends 891 00:34:00,640 --> 00:33:58,380 hmm yeah it's not unprecedented for 892 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:00,650 intelligence agencies to lean into 893 00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:03,810 superstitions and the supernatural right 894 00:34:07,460 --> 00:34:05,670 and when you think about the content of 895 00:34:09,260 --> 00:34:07,470 the message being so wrapped up in 896 00:34:11,899 --> 00:34:09,270 geopolitics it's hard to see it as 897 00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:11,909 genuine but I guess I still think about 898 00:34:14,990 --> 00:34:13,200 the technology I mean we're talking 899 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:15,000 about blue beam stuff everybody is like 900 00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:17,010 worried about oh they might use blue 901 00:34:23,330 --> 00:34:20,760 beam to stage some big event well they 902 00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:23,340 clearly have been able to make things 903 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:26,190 look supernatural at a time depth in 904 00:34:31,220 --> 00:34:28,710 which I would think the technology 905 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:31,230 wouldn't really be there to make it seem 906 00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:33,810 viable but clearly they got something 907 00:34:36,889 --> 00:34:34,950 they're doing something I don't know if 908 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:36,899 it's just smoke machines in a flashy 909 00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:39,690 costume but that's convincing to some 910 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:42,600 people well if you know I'm not trying 911 00:34:47,149 --> 00:34:43,890 to be too much of a like a reddit 912 00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:47,159 skeptic type of dude but I will say that 913 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:51,179 if you know when a stellar conjunction 914 00:34:56,210 --> 00:34:53,610 or some sort of stellar phenomenon is 915 00:34:58,700 --> 00:34:56,220 coming I mean we know an ancient priest 916 00:35:00,350 --> 00:34:58,710 knew when there would be strange solar 917 00:35:01,730 --> 00:35:00,360 phenomena just on the basis of calendars 918 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:01,740 or there would be a conjunction there 919 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:04,260 would be like an eclipse or something 920 00:35:08,420 --> 00:35:06,810 even yeah exactly and so if you knew 921 00:35:11,390 --> 00:35:08,430 that that was coming then you could 922 00:35:13,220 --> 00:35:11,400 quite easily dupe a bunch of Portuguese 923 00:35:16,070 --> 00:35:13,230 villagers and simpletons in other words 924 00:35:18,110 --> 00:35:16,080 so I think that that's a possibility and 925 00:35:19,870 --> 00:35:18,120 another possibility too is that the news 926 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:19,880 stories just made up like they just 927 00:35:25,070 --> 00:35:22,770 created the news story in the local 928 00:35:27,230 --> 00:35:25,080 papers and either there wasn't this 929 00:35:29,630 --> 00:35:27,240 phenomenon or they do 930 00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:29,640 villagers or like you said it is 931 00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:31,020 possible that there was some kind of 932 00:35:34,460 --> 00:35:32,910 weird phenomena that we don't know about 933 00:35:35,570 --> 00:35:34,470 but even that doesn't necessarily mean 934 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:35,580 that that been the case Roman 935 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:37,530 Catholicism maybe there was a phenomenon 936 00:35:41,329 --> 00:35:39,570 that happened and maybe some villagers 937 00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:41,339 decided hey I can get them as from this 938 00:35:46,670 --> 00:35:44,820 let me marry talk to me right or again 939 00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:46,680 it was a geostrategic thing and the 940 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:48,720 bankers had already planned to have 941 00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,170 World War 1 and so they needed a kind of 942 00:35:57,859 --> 00:35:54,720 apparition to mobilize large forces of 943 00:35:59,240 --> 00:35:57,869 the Catholic perception and if you think 944 00:36:01,700 --> 00:35:59,250 that seems a little strange let me 945 00:36:04,010 --> 00:36:01,710 remind you that HG Wells when he did 946 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:04,020 shape of things to come this is actually 947 00:36:08,210 --> 00:36:06,210 four or five years prior to World War 948 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:08,220 two and he predicts exactly what would 949 00:36:11,150 --> 00:36:09,810 happen all the bombing campaigns all the 950 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:11,160 crazy stuff that would happen in World 951 00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,530 War two a lot of which didn't exist yet 952 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:15,839 like a lot of the ideas of I mean nobody 953 00:36:19,790 --> 00:36:16,890 would have believed that there would be 954 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:19,800 this giant world war with big bombing 955 00:36:24,609 --> 00:36:22,890 campaigns now did he predict it or did 956 00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,619 he know that the bankers had planned 957 00:36:27,859 --> 00:36:26,880 World War two I think he knew that they 958 00:36:30,170 --> 00:36:27,869 had planned it and I think it's 959 00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:30,180 reasonable to suspect that this is what 960 00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,700 was going on at Fatima as well hmm 961 00:36:36,829 --> 00:36:34,800 yeah it's a take I hadn't heard but I've 962 00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:36,839 heard that template applied to other 963 00:36:42,530 --> 00:36:39,270 situations so I don't think it's 964 00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:42,540 completely unreasonable and something I 965 00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:44,310 kind of expected to see in a book about 966 00:36:49,490 --> 00:36:47,190 Hollywood sex and cults but didn't 967 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:49,500 really is the nexium cult stuff with 968 00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:51,210 Keith Renier and Alison Mack I know 969 00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:53,369 you've done some videos about it mm-hmm 970 00:36:58,490 --> 00:36:57,089 but that is a crazy template an example 971 00:37:01,070 --> 00:36:58,500 of something that's probably a lot 972 00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:01,080 deeper what have you seen when you 973 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:03,180 looked into that case I mean is it 974 00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,890 basically just another template for the 975 00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:06,720 kind of stuff that is there but doesn't 976 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:09,150 bubble up to the surface very often I 977 00:37:12,589 --> 00:37:10,740 think you're right it would have been 978 00:37:13,849 --> 00:37:12,599 ideal if that information had come out 979 00:37:15,140 --> 00:37:13,859 when I wrote the first one they maybe 980 00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:15,150 would it would have been perfect it 981 00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:16,800 should have had its own chapter and I 982 00:37:20,359 --> 00:37:18,510 could have stuck it in part to you but 983 00:37:21,980 --> 00:37:20,369 the problems that I already had pretty 984 00:37:24,020 --> 00:37:21,990 much the manuscript and all that to the 985 00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:24,030 publisher before the meet of the next 986 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:26,220 same stuff came out so right when the 987 00:37:30,170 --> 00:37:27,810 next ceiling stuff was starting to make 988 00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:30,180 headlines the mesh scripts done and then 989 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:32,070 it was a little bit too late to add that 990 00:37:35,540 --> 00:37:34,410 stuff but you're right I wish that I 991 00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:35,550 have put in there because it really is a 992 00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:37,440 vindication of a lot of stuff that I've 993 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:38,640 been talking about it goes up to the 994 00:37:42,210 --> 00:37:40,450 highest levels of 995 00:37:45,029 --> 00:37:42,220 the global elite in terms of the Brahmin 996 00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:45,039 dynasty you've got it connected to all 997 00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:47,200 these NGOs the Clinton Global Initiative 998 00:37:51,930 --> 00:37:49,750 people involved in it a lot of other 999 00:37:54,359 --> 00:37:51,940 corporation connected people fortune 500 1000 00:37:56,910 --> 00:37:54,369 types and it seems to have a global 1001 00:37:58,769 --> 00:37:56,920 stretch and it functioned like a weird 1002 00:38:01,700 --> 00:37:58,779 an weights up a thing like a pyramid 1003 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:01,710 scheme mixed with a sex cult mixed with 1004 00:38:06,809 --> 00:38:03,970 brainwashing and now other stuffs coming 1005 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:06,819 out like Renier guy supposedly had it 1006 00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:08,710 was trafficking child porn type stuff 1007 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:11,710 too so presumably human trafficking is 1008 00:38:16,170 --> 00:38:13,450 involved I'm not positive that's been 1009 00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:16,180 substantiated yet but presumably that's 1010 00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:18,160 there and then most recently in the last 1011 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:19,900 couple weeks we've seen the John of God 1012 00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:23,700 cult come to the fore he's reportedly 1013 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:26,260 involved in a lot of not just abuse but 1014 00:38:31,650 --> 00:38:29,650 perhaps even baby farming the girl who 1015 00:38:32,490 --> 00:38:31,660 pointed this out mysteriously ends up 1016 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:32,500 suicided 1017 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:35,710 I think that's suspicious Wow and also 1018 00:38:39,690 --> 00:38:37,569 connected to the same circles of Nexium 1019 00:38:41,309 --> 00:38:39,700 I'm not saying John of God was an index 1020 00:38:43,230 --> 00:38:41,319 him that a lot of the same high-powered 1021 00:38:45,539 --> 00:38:43,240 people running in the same circles 1022 00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:45,549 that's nexium so you're absolutely right 1023 00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:48,190 directly into Hollywood 1000 Mac and all 1024 00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:50,230 that and I just see it as a vindication 1025 00:38:56,009 --> 00:38:53,049 and I wish that I had included in import 1026 00:38:59,579 --> 00:38:56,019 too but it was it was too soon well fuel 1027 00:39:02,450 --> 00:38:59,589 for the trilogy exactly I'm not exactly 1028 00:39:07,259 --> 00:39:02,460 familiar with did you say John of God 1029 00:39:09,930 --> 00:39:07,269 yeah there was a big cult bust in Brazil 1030 00:39:11,309 --> 00:39:09,940 I think or Peru it was but it's been 1031 00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:11,319 some weeks now it's kind of out of the 1032 00:39:17,849 --> 00:39:13,630 news but it was a big news story maybe 1033 00:39:19,799 --> 00:39:17,859 three weeks ago and this is a weirdo New 1034 00:39:22,349 --> 00:39:19,809 Age faith healer guy surprise surprise 1035 00:39:24,930 --> 00:39:22,359 who sits under a giant pyramid nothing 1036 00:39:26,670 --> 00:39:24,940 suspicious there maybe maybe it's a guy 1037 00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:26,680 sitting under a diet pyramid as though 1038 00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:29,440 something shady going on but a lot of 1039 00:39:32,849 --> 00:39:31,150 people had made these pilgrimages to him 1040 00:39:36,450 --> 00:39:32,859 a lot of kind of the new-age crowd that 1041 00:39:38,460 --> 00:39:36,460 wanted healing to raise their vibrations 1042 00:39:42,809 --> 00:39:38,470 in consciousness that kind of stuff and 1043 00:39:46,099 --> 00:39:42,819 turns out this guy had abused and the 1044 00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:46,109 accusations of rape countless women Wow 1045 00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:49,630 then they came out that's one of I think 1046 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,480 was not just his daughter was accusing 1047 00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:54,160 him of abusing her 1048 00:39:58,049 --> 00:39:56,049 another woman who was involved in the 1049 00:39:59,730 --> 00:39:58,059 group said that it's worse they actually 1050 00:40:02,130 --> 00:39:59,740 are involved in human trafficking and 1051 00:40:03,809 --> 00:40:02,140 they have breeders now you know if you 1052 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:03,819 familiar with the satanic ritual abuse 1053 00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:05,890 phenomenon this has been answered about 1054 00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:07,529 for a long time the idea of breeders 1055 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:10,150 kind of viewed as still fringe I guess 1056 00:40:13,950 --> 00:40:12,490 you could say so the woman who made the 1057 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:13,960 accusation that he was running a baby 1058 00:40:18,569 --> 00:40:16,450 farm everybody kind of took that as 1059 00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:18,579 tabloid he well she actually ends up 1060 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:20,950 dead a few days later and this is 1061 00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:22,569 mainstream is it's not conspiracy so 1062 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:24,160 it's totally mainstream news she ended 1063 00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:27,130 up in Spain I think and had been 1064 00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:29,920 suicidal hmm immediately after making 1065 00:40:34,049 --> 00:40:32,049 the public accusation that he was 1066 00:40:36,299 --> 00:40:34,059 running a baby farm in the John of God 1067 00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:36,309 character himself who was affiliated 1068 00:40:40,759 --> 00:40:38,980 with Oprah always been a really high 1069 00:40:42,809 --> 00:40:40,769 level international type people and 1070 00:40:45,870 --> 00:40:42,819 Oprah immediately released a statement 1071 00:40:48,809 --> 00:40:45,880 like sorry I I promoted this guy a 1072 00:40:50,190 --> 00:40:48,819 couple years ago sorry I promoted him we 1073 00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:50,200 disassociate oops 1074 00:40:55,130 --> 00:40:52,480 my bad yeah well I mean how many times 1075 00:40:58,170 --> 00:40:55,140 do we see orphanage is connected to 1076 00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:58,180 child abuse and there was just that 1077 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:00,400 scandal about the Catholic Church and 1078 00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:02,650 these priests bang and the nuns and then 1079 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:04,390 they chained the nuns up during their 1080 00:41:09,569 --> 00:41:06,490 pregnancy and then who knows what they 1081 00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:09,579 do with that baby afterwards but these 1082 00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:12,609 ugly dark stuff I would say the brooder 1083 00:41:17,819 --> 00:41:15,400 thing is real yeah I would I would say 1084 00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:17,829 so too I mean there are people who will 1085 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:20,529 make money off anything and it's 1086 00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:22,930 unfortunate that human beings are a 1087 00:41:28,589 --> 00:41:26,079 commodity to people in that world and so 1088 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:28,599 if you can make them out of thin air by 1089 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:32,170 abusing just a few women some people are 1090 00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:34,210 gonna do it yeah even one of the big 1091 00:41:38,490 --> 00:41:36,430 battle rappers I don't know if you're 1092 00:41:40,499 --> 00:41:38,500 familiar with daylight but he's a fairly 1093 00:41:44,910 --> 00:41:40,509 popular valor up guy he made a pretty 1094 00:41:46,410 --> 00:41:44,920 wild video where he talks about how for 1095 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:46,420 certain reasons he wanted to get on the 1096 00:41:51,019 --> 00:41:49,210 dark web some years ago to download 1097 00:41:53,509 --> 00:41:51,029 something he se was trying to buy a 1098 00:41:56,609 --> 00:41:53,519 silencer for a gun that he had and he 1099 00:41:59,880 --> 00:41:56,619 says he came across some of these rooms 1100 00:42:02,910 --> 00:41:59,890 where they they do this kind of the 1101 00:42:05,279 --> 00:42:02,920 hostel style torture type stuff yeah now 1102 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:05,289 I've never looked at any interest in 1103 00:42:07,820 --> 00:42:07,450 that but the point is that he was making 1104 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:07,830 your 1105 00:42:10,970 --> 00:42:09,810 that a lot of that kind of human 1106 00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:10,980 trafficking type stuff that you hear 1107 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:12,630 about and he was saying it's real and 1108 00:42:16,970 --> 00:42:14,490 unless this was some eyes super 1109 00:42:20,090 --> 00:42:16,980 technical stage thing that was all fake 1110 00:42:22,460 --> 00:42:20,100 he's like the looked real to me and that 1111 00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:22,470 would involve trafficking I don't doubt 1112 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:25,320 it I've watched some videos that act as 1113 00:42:29,930 --> 00:42:27,690 guides to the Deep Web and because I'm 1114 00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:29,940 not willing to actually like go mess 1115 00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,400 around there but I am curious and the 1116 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:35,040 darkest thing I had seen was a guy pulls 1117 00:42:39,830 --> 00:42:38,160 up this website where they say you know 1118 00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:39,840 it's somewhere in some third-world 1119 00:42:45,730 --> 00:42:41,910 country it's just a bunch of jail cells 1120 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:45,740 basically and they say we will do any 1121 00:42:51,740 --> 00:42:48,570 science that you want do you want to 1122 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:51,750 know the effects of aluminum and high 1123 00:42:55,820 --> 00:42:53,850 doses on pregnant women will get you 1124 00:42:57,980 --> 00:42:55,830 that data do you want to know you know 1125 00:43:00,440 --> 00:42:57,990 this out in the other and so you don't 1126 00:43:02,570 --> 00:43:00,450 ask any questions you just say yeah I 1127 00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:02,580 want to know this chemical this 1128 00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:05,160 condition what it does to people and 1129 00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:08,510 they'll tell you and that is scary stuff 1130 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:11,310 yeah there was the story the cannibal - 1131 00:43:15,740 --> 00:43:13,410 so even cannibalism comes into this with 1132 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:15,750 it usually makes it into everybody's top 1133 00:43:20,270 --> 00:43:18,210 ten dark web stories I don't know if 1134 00:43:22,610 --> 00:43:20,280 you've ever seen no my name is chills 1135 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:22,620 and I'm gonna show you the top ten dark 1136 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:24,690 web stories I hope that you don't get 1137 00:43:30,590 --> 00:43:27,930 scared but he's one of these top tens 1138 00:43:32,660 --> 00:43:30,600 out channel guys but in one of his dark 1139 00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:32,670 web videos he talks about the cannibal 1140 00:43:36,380 --> 00:43:35,310 case in one of the Nordic countries but 1141 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:36,390 the guy was actually literally a 1142 00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:39,090 cannibal and he found a service on the 1143 00:43:42,290 --> 00:43:40,710 dark web for meeting out with other 1144 00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:42,300 cannibals and the weird part of that 1145 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:43,560 story was the guy was ended up getting 1146 00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:45,690 convicted cameras got a weird Nordic 1147 00:43:51,230 --> 00:43:48,180 type name but he found a guy who wants 1148 00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,240 it to be eaten that's his fantasy it was 1149 00:43:55,010 --> 00:43:53,280 a gay guy he wanted to make love and 1150 00:43:59,540 --> 00:43:55,020 then literally be cooked and eaten and 1151 00:44:01,400 --> 00:43:59,550 the cannibal oblige death I guess he was 1152 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:01,410 like a praying mantis in a previous life 1153 00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:04,170 or some day to go right so he and the 1154 00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:06,060 dude ended up convicted but that's one 1155 00:44:11,150 --> 00:44:08,280 of the kind of the more famous dark dark 1156 00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:11,160 web stores man oh by the way by the way 1157 00:44:15,230 --> 00:44:12,660 let me add real quick 1158 00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,240 many years ago I turned up because I 1159 00:44:19,220 --> 00:44:17,040 heard about this or a long time ago and 1160 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:19,230 I remember researching and I cannot dig 1161 00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:21,690 up again where I located it but 1162 00:44:26,270 --> 00:44:24,240 I do recall a pretty source document on 1163 00:44:28,180 --> 00:44:26,280 that case well sourced that actually 1164 00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,190 argued that the cannibal guy was 1165 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:30,720 actively involved in one sort of darker 1166 00:44:34,460 --> 00:44:32,610 occult groups hmm and they had a pretty 1167 00:44:36,770 --> 00:44:34,470 solid case for that I can't dig up again 1168 00:44:39,980 --> 00:44:36,780 where it was but I do think that's also 1169 00:44:42,290 --> 00:44:39,990 possible mm-hmm yeah I mean a lot of 1170 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:42,300 crazy stuff going on out there and that 1171 00:44:46,580 --> 00:44:44,730 nexium cult just I always use that as an 1172 00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:46,590 example now I'm waiting for some books 1173 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:48,000 to start coming out that are just 1174 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:49,890 focused on that because it checks all 1175 00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:51,690 the boxes i mean he's tricking young 1176 00:44:57,340 --> 00:44:54,660 girls into making porn for a private 1177 00:44:59,950 --> 00:44:57,350 collection he's using branding 1178 00:45:03,620 --> 00:44:59,960 psychological torture sleep deprivation 1179 00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:03,630 these slaves apparently were blackmailed 1180 00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:06,240 into providing new collateral sometimes 1181 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:07,980 as often is every month whether it's 1182 00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:11,610 porn or signing over assets or some kind 1183 00:45:16,460 --> 00:45:14,040 of thing that the group could use to end 1184 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:16,470 their career if it took off it kind of 1185 00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,570 reminds me of Scientology because 1186 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:20,880 they're very much about that confession 1187 00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:23,370 element you've got like a handler who 1188 00:45:27,290 --> 00:45:25,110 you're supposed to tell everything to 1189 00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:27,300 and then of course it's used when you 1190 00:45:32,270 --> 00:45:30,000 want to try to get out exactly and you 1191 00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:32,280 can't but what's crazy about next time 1192 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:35,520 is it says like all the articles I can 1193 00:45:39,590 --> 00:45:37,530 find say that it's funded by wealthy 1194 00:45:41,870 --> 00:45:39,600 donors and you mentioned a couple of 1195 00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:41,880 organizations the Clinton Foundation 1196 00:45:47,180 --> 00:45:43,910 tangental II might be connected but I 1197 00:45:48,910 --> 00:45:47,190 still don't know really where all that 1198 00:45:51,830 --> 00:45:48,920 money is coming from who's really 1199 00:45:53,180 --> 00:45:51,840 funding something like the nexium called 1200 00:45:55,850 --> 00:45:53,190 hopefully it comes out in court 1201 00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:55,860 they already arraigned Claire Bronfman 1202 00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:59,010 hmm I mean that was like big news when 1203 00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:01,680 that first broke she made her bail but I 1204 00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:03,510 don't know if the court date has gone 1205 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:05,940 through yet but she's had her trial but 1206 00:46:10,430 --> 00:46:08,610 the accusation was a the money came from 1207 00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:10,440 the Bronfman that's the secret so 1208 00:46:16,370 --> 00:46:13,920 Seagram's alcohol okay that's the 1209 00:46:18,380 --> 00:46:16,380 Canadian mega billionaire family the 1210 00:46:21,350 --> 00:46:18,390 Bronfman's they're also bought into 1211 00:46:24,350 --> 00:46:21,360 media so they're one of the big elite 1212 00:46:26,510 --> 00:46:24,360 families and that's reportedly at least 1213 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:26,520 according to just mainstream news where 1214 00:46:32,810 --> 00:46:29,730 the money came from the furcal hmm Wow 1215 00:46:34,540 --> 00:46:32,820 Wow so to get back to your book let me 1216 00:46:37,150 --> 00:46:34,550 ask you about V for 1217 00:46:39,940 --> 00:46:37,160 Vendetta because it's a film that I love 1218 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:39,950 I even named my cat Eevee but you are 1219 00:46:43,930 --> 00:46:41,690 pretty hard on it you're right Alan 1220 00:46:46,270 --> 00:46:43,940 Moore is undoubtedly a talented artist 1221 00:46:48,190 --> 00:46:46,280 and storyteller but the notion that be 1222 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:48,200 for Vendetta is a story geared towards 1223 00:46:54,250 --> 00:46:50,570 human liberation as masses of ignorant 1224 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:54,260 fans assume is laughable and of course 1225 00:46:59,380 --> 00:46:56,570 anonymous and occupying all that stuff 1226 00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:59,390 came after and was very politicized and 1227 00:47:04,030 --> 00:47:01,280 it was sort of a commercialization of 1228 00:47:07,180 --> 00:47:04,040 rebellion I get all that but how is the 1229 00:47:08,830 --> 00:47:07,190 film itself not about liberation I mean 1230 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:08,840 I watched a lot of interviews with Alan 1231 00:47:13,450 --> 00:47:10,970 Moore and I don't doubt that he 1232 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:13,460 personally thinks he's on a process of 1233 00:47:19,060 --> 00:47:16,730 self liberation I'm sure he intended the 1234 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:19,070 meaning of the story to be liberation 1235 00:47:23,950 --> 00:47:20,930 but I want to highlight the reason I 1236 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:23,960 tied it into like anarchism is because I 1237 00:47:28,060 --> 00:47:25,610 am critical event because I might see it 1238 00:47:30,430 --> 00:47:28,070 as a tool again I'm not talking about 1239 00:47:32,050 --> 00:47:30,440 the sincerity of individuals or the 1240 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:32,060 artists who put it out they may be 1241 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:35,330 completely sincere in terms of seeking 1242 00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:37,970 and wanting liberation but what I wanted 1243 00:47:43,090 --> 00:47:40,400 to illustrate was that anarchism are a 1244 00:47:46,420 --> 00:47:43,100 narco-terrorism is and has historically 1245 00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:46,430 been used in a dialectic or even a trial 1246 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:49,280 ected I mean if you look at the history 1247 00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:50,930 of the British Empire there were some of 1248 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:53,510 the first to utilize anarchism as a 1249 00:47:59,110 --> 00:47:56,810 means of staging stuff for example when 1250 00:48:01,840 --> 00:47:59,120 I talked a minute ago about ladio and 1251 00:48:04,030 --> 00:48:01,850 the Cold War just because Operation 1252 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:04,040 Gladio and the NATO stay-behind people 1253 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:06,530 staged and blame things on the 1254 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:08,210 Communists in my view that doesn't make 1255 00:48:11,590 --> 00:48:09,770 communism good just because you were 1256 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:11,600 that was part of this big kind of 1257 00:48:15,580 --> 00:48:13,730 dialectic it's not like there's only two 1258 00:48:17,260 --> 00:48:15,590 options of like why are you a Western 1259 00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:17,270 capitalist or are you an Eastern 1260 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:20,510 collectivist communist there's also a 1261 00:48:25,690 --> 00:48:23,450 narco-terrorist I'm stuff and I view 1262 00:48:27,460 --> 00:48:25,700 that as typically having been used as 1263 00:48:30,850 --> 00:48:27,470 well and I don't think that the system 1264 00:48:36,450 --> 00:48:30,860 is going to allow part works out that 1265 00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:36,460 promote the kind of a narco cyberpunk on 1266 00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:40,310 the true rebel type of view that's not 1267 00:48:45,940 --> 00:48:43,910 going to try to co-opt it into an aspect 1268 00:48:47,820 --> 00:48:45,950 of the system that is still useful to 1269 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:47,830 the system so 1270 00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:48,970 what I'm trying to say is I want to 1271 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:50,710 separate the individual artists 1272 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:52,930 intention which that may have been to do 1273 00:48:56,370 --> 00:48:54,610 that it's about like with Kubrick was 1274 00:48:58,140 --> 00:48:56,380 Kubrick part of the system was he really 1275 00:49:00,360 --> 00:48:58,150 trying to tell people how evil it was 1276 00:49:01,740 --> 00:49:00,370 well you could argue that point but what 1277 00:49:03,690 --> 00:49:01,750 I was interested in was just the 1278 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:03,700 approach of the film itself in terms of 1279 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:06,490 its commercialization you've got Hot 1280 00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:09,490 Topic used to have Guy Fawkes masks all 1281 00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:11,440 right I mean it's like it's punk music 1282 00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:13,510 really Ponca that's everywhere in Hot 1283 00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:15,730 Topic and I see those things as 1284 00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:18,660 establishment stamped of approval 1285 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:21,520 rebellion movements and again there are 1286 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:24,330 people like Dave McGowan's thesis on the 1287 00:49:29,070 --> 00:49:26,770 Laurel Canyon scene all are the artists 1288 00:49:32,010 --> 00:49:29,080 or a genuinely anti-war but if you don't 1289 00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:32,020 have a foundation or a perspective from 1290 00:49:36,270 --> 00:49:34,720 which to actually critique why war is 1291 00:49:38,820 --> 00:49:36,280 wrong a philosophy if you don't have a 1292 00:49:40,770 --> 00:49:38,830 grounding to be able to do that if you 1293 00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:40,780 just have this you know whatever you 1294 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:42,640 believe is true man whatever I believed 1295 00:49:47,340 --> 00:49:44,530 like that just relativistic type of view 1296 00:49:49,260 --> 00:49:47,350 is itself problematic it doesn't work so 1297 00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:49,270 I think you need to be better grounded 1298 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:50,500 and that's what I was going for and if 1299 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:52,690 they're teak right I mean that is a 1300 00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:54,850 great point when I was in high school 1301 00:50:02,100 --> 00:49:58,720 and I was a punk kid complaining about 1302 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:02,110 the [\h__\h] of the gap and Abercrombie 1303 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:04,210 that somebody told me that the same 1304 00:50:08,550 --> 00:50:07,090 company owns at least a couple of these 1305 00:50:12,750 --> 00:50:08,560 different stores and I was just like 1306 00:50:14,850 --> 00:50:12,760 those [\h__\h] got me you know but 1307 00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:14,860 let's talk about anarchism a little bit 1308 00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:16,720 more because you do say I have the quote 1309 00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:19,750 here in the book you say you consider 1310 00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:22,000 Anarchy being the worldview par 1311 00:50:26,250 --> 00:50:23,920 excellence of the elite because it's the 1312 00:50:29,310 --> 00:50:26,260 most destructive and you say ultimate 1313 00:50:31,590 --> 00:50:29,320 Liberty is really absolute slavery to 1314 00:50:32,570 --> 00:50:31,600 the passions and I sort of see what 1315 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:32,580 you're getting at the whole 1316 00:50:37,170 --> 00:50:35,290 overindulgence Satanism do it now well 1317 00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:37,180 stuff right but I look at something like 1318 00:50:41,790 --> 00:50:39,280 the drug war right personally I think 1319 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:41,800 all drugs should be legal I think should 1320 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:43,690 have the freedom to [\h__\h] yourself up if 1321 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:45,850 you so choose but if the state were to 1322 00:50:51,090 --> 00:50:48,730 give me the freedom to do heroin legally 1323 00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:51,100 it doesn't mean I have to indulge right 1324 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:53,680 so that's kind of where I bring in that 1325 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:55,570 personal responsibility I think we 1326 00:51:00,330 --> 00:50:57,370 should have ultimate Liberty but that 1327 00:51:00,980 --> 00:51:00,340 doesn't mean that you must have ultimate 1328 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:00,990 indulge 1329 00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:04,250 that's true this gets into a question of 1330 00:51:09,020 --> 00:51:06,839 complex issues of the role of the states 1331 00:51:11,690 --> 00:51:09,030 and the role of private corporations and 1332 00:51:13,609 --> 00:51:11,700 I think you're right to say that you 1333 00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:13,619 know 100 years ago you could walk into 1334 00:51:19,370 --> 00:51:15,440 an apothecary and you could simply buy 1335 00:51:22,010 --> 00:51:19,380 opiates or you could buy cocaine I don't 1336 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:22,020 necessarily have a problem with the free 1337 00:51:26,839 --> 00:51:24,330 sale of those things the problem is that 1338 00:51:29,390 --> 00:51:26,849 we're in a situation now where society 1339 00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,400 has been degenerated on purpose so one 1340 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:31,680 of the problems with that perspective of 1341 00:51:37,089 --> 00:51:33,930 just kind of a basic sort of libertarian 1342 00:51:40,010 --> 00:51:37,099 approach is that it misses the fact of 1343 00:51:41,780 --> 00:51:40,020 culture creation and toxic culture so 1344 00:51:44,329 --> 00:51:41,790 the corporations can buy the government 1345 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:44,339 off and then they can through the 1346 00:51:48,260 --> 00:51:46,290 government can't channel everybody into 1347 00:51:49,940 --> 00:51:48,270 things that destroy and in a great 1348 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:49,950 culture then when the culture is 1349 00:51:54,109 --> 00:51:52,170 denigrated and collapsed they can make 1350 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:54,119 all this stuff freely available this is 1351 00:51:57,890 --> 00:51:55,530 what you see in brave new world where 1352 00:51:59,599 --> 00:51:57,900 drugs are basically mass available to 1353 00:52:02,359 --> 00:51:59,609 the population because they've lost the 1354 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:02,369 ability to have self-control so I would 1355 00:52:06,140 --> 00:52:03,930 agree with you in principle I mean I do 1356 00:52:09,140 --> 00:52:06,150 think THC has all kinds of positive 1357 00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:09,150 healing benefits it should be available 1358 00:52:15,290 --> 00:52:12,480 in its organic way it would do a lot 1359 00:52:17,089 --> 00:52:15,300 better for people then all these SSRIs 1360 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:17,099 and as big pharma crap so I'm totally 1361 00:52:20,810 --> 00:52:19,050 Pro THC in terms of its healing 1362 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:20,820 properties but I'm just saying it's a 1363 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:22,410 little more complex when we factor in 1364 00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:26,490 the issues of social engineering and the 1365 00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:28,910 role of the corporate state in 1366 00:52:32,930 --> 00:52:31,200 intentionally trying to make things 1367 00:52:34,849 --> 00:52:32,940 legal at a stage and again I'm not 1368 00:52:37,099 --> 00:52:34,859 saying that th you should be illegal 1369 00:52:38,810 --> 00:52:37,109 what I'm saying is that when you've 1370 00:52:40,970 --> 00:52:38,820 integrated a culture to the point where 1371 00:52:43,550 --> 00:52:40,980 if people don't have self-control then 1372 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:43,560 you can flood them like with the opiates 1373 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:45,330 right like the oxycontin being made 1374 00:52:50,510 --> 00:52:48,450 available to the middle Americans to 1375 00:52:53,180 --> 00:52:50,520 people in the south it's the same model 1376 00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:53,190 of the CIA did with targeting the ghetto 1377 00:52:57,890 --> 00:52:56,640 with crack cocaine and I think this is 1378 00:53:00,170 --> 00:52:57,900 all done on purpose I think they've 1379 00:53:02,690 --> 00:53:00,180 flooded the South the rednecks with meth 1380 00:53:05,540 --> 00:53:02,700 just like they've flooded blacks with 1381 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:05,550 crack that doesn't mean that the drug 1382 00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:07,290 war is true and good and we should have 1383 00:53:11,060 --> 00:53:09,480 you know the bad guys running the drug 1384 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:11,070 war I'm not saying I'm just saying that 1385 00:53:14,300 --> 00:53:12,570 it's really complex when you start 1386 00:53:15,220 --> 00:53:14,310 looking at it from all these different 1387 00:53:17,380 --> 00:53:15,230 vantage point 1388 00:53:20,050 --> 00:53:17,390 and I'm not saying that because they 1389 00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:20,060 flooded to get it with crack that we 1390 00:53:24,970 --> 00:53:22,609 should therefore not have restrictions 1391 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:24,980 or have complete availability of all 1392 00:53:29,230 --> 00:53:27,170 these things because again they didn't 1393 00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:29,240 flood the ghetto with crack until they 1394 00:53:34,420 --> 00:53:32,240 had broken down the morals of blacks in 1395 00:53:36,220 --> 00:53:34,430 America and they did that through toxic 1396 00:53:39,430 --> 00:53:36,230 culture then they could destroy and 1397 00:53:41,890 --> 00:53:39,440 damage the people group more easily 1398 00:53:43,660 --> 00:53:41,900 through something like crack and I'm 1399 00:53:44,980 --> 00:53:43,670 blaming the establish I'm saying is the 1400 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:44,990 corporate government that did that 1401 00:53:49,090 --> 00:53:46,970 intentionally so in principle I agree 1402 00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:49,100 with you that if we were in a situation 1403 00:53:52,930 --> 00:53:50,510 where society was a little more self 1404 00:53:55,390 --> 00:53:52,940 controlled it wouldn't be a problem for 1405 00:53:57,250 --> 00:53:55,400 people to go down to the Apothecary and 1406 00:53:59,080 --> 00:53:57,260 buy cocaine if they needed it for 1407 00:54:01,120 --> 00:53:59,090 something to buy to see if they needed 1408 00:54:04,690 --> 00:54:01,130 it for something it's just a big giant 1409 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:04,700 mess is all on genocide mm-hmm and just 1410 00:54:09,609 --> 00:54:06,410 to put a cherry on top of this whole 1411 00:54:11,230 --> 00:54:09,619 thing obviously you write about a lot of 1412 00:54:13,060 --> 00:54:11,240 great stuff in this book but a book 1413 00:54:15,099 --> 00:54:13,070 takes a long time to write let me ask 1414 00:54:18,070 --> 00:54:15,109 you what is the most recently released 1415 00:54:20,590 --> 00:54:18,080 film that you've seen that you think 1416 00:54:22,180 --> 00:54:20,600 needs to be properly mined for the type 1417 00:54:24,070 --> 00:54:22,190 of content you cover even if you haven't 1418 00:54:27,849 --> 00:54:24,080 got to it at the depths that you 1419 00:54:30,609 --> 00:54:27,859 normally would probably Pano's cosmatos 1420 00:54:32,410 --> 00:54:30,619 I guess with Mandy and beyond the black 1421 00:54:34,990 --> 00:54:32,420 rainbow now I had seen beyond the black 1422 00:54:36,250 --> 00:54:35,000 rainbow when it came out I knew about 1423 00:54:38,170 --> 00:54:36,260 Ian Kilcher and that kind of stuff when 1424 00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:38,180 I came out I was still kind of new but 1425 00:54:44,170 --> 00:54:41,510 when it came to tying it to some of the 1426 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:44,180 deeper stuff in the style the movie was 1427 00:54:47,710 --> 00:54:45,890 so overbearing 1428 00:54:51,250 --> 00:54:47,720 it's almost like he's wanting to put you 1429 00:54:55,180 --> 00:54:51,260 through my control experiment so I held 1430 00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:55,190 off on it but I went back last week and 1431 00:54:59,320 --> 00:54:56,960 I watched no black rainbow I thought was 1432 00:55:01,599 --> 00:54:59,330 excellent it was a great film I really 1433 00:55:04,540 --> 00:55:01,609 appreciate it now and I think I needed 1434 00:55:07,020 --> 00:55:04,550 to see Mandy first and that kind of 1435 00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:07,030 initiated me properly too upon OSes 1436 00:55:11,140 --> 00:55:09,710 movies and his style and so then when I 1437 00:55:14,050 --> 00:55:11,150 went back and watched the other black 1438 00:55:16,270 --> 00:55:14,060 rainbow it was a lot more powerful so I 1439 00:55:18,670 --> 00:55:16,280 would say Mandy and got a black memo 1440 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:18,680 right on and that's what I hadn't even 1441 00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:22,730 heard of and man so J just always a 1442 00:55:28,329 --> 00:55:25,609 pleasure I think you do great film 1443 00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:28,339 analysis I'm always learning something 1444 00:55:33,130 --> 00:55:30,710 before we go remind the people where to 1445 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:33,140 get the books where to see online and 1446 00:55:37,180 --> 00:55:35,450 all the good stuff you got going on yeah 1447 00:55:40,209 --> 00:55:37,190 you can just go to Jay's analysis and 1448 00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:40,219 there's no sis comm you can find the 1449 00:55:44,469 --> 00:55:41,599 shop there for the books you can find 1450 00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:44,479 the subscription there for the archives 1451 00:55:48,009 --> 00:55:45,920 and interviews and talks that I've done 1452 00:55:49,329 --> 00:55:48,019 on the globalist books and all that full 1453 00:55:50,739 --> 00:55:49,339 access we're going for ninety-five a 1454 00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:50,749 month six dollars a year you can also 1455 00:55:55,059 --> 00:55:53,089 watch the TV show that we did which a 1456 00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:55,069 wider one whole season if you subscribe 1457 00:56:01,410 --> 00:55:58,090 to Gaea there's links there for that 1458 00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:01,420 and the advantage of course I signed all 1459 00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,520 the books so you get a signed copy if 1460 00:56:07,890 --> 00:56:05,440 you get it from Amazon it's not very 1461 00:56:09,690 --> 00:56:07,900 good for the author I also do tutoring 1462 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:09,700 that's picked up quite a bit so a tutor 1463 00:56:13,230 --> 00:56:12,010 quite a few people in philosophy so if 1464 00:56:14,610 --> 00:56:13,240 you're interested in learning philosophy 1465 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:14,620 and all that stuff you can sign it for 1466 00:56:19,950 --> 00:56:17,410 tutoring at the patreon there and then 1467 00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:19,960 my youtube has grown a good bit so if 1468 00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:21,910 you would subscribe to doing a lot more 1469 00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:23,440 video content nowadays so you can 1470 00:56:28,020 --> 00:56:24,880 subscribe to my youtube channel they're 1471 00:56:29,370 --> 00:56:28,030 awesome and yeah Congrats on Hollywood 1472 00:56:31,350 --> 00:56:29,380 decoded with je Weiner 1473 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:31,360 thanks you also have another pilot out 1474 00:56:36,090 --> 00:56:33,090 there right now too don't you 1475 00:56:38,130 --> 00:56:36,100 well you know about that maybe as well I 1476 00:56:40,650 --> 00:56:38,140 don't know what yeah it's in the works 1477 00:56:42,570 --> 00:56:40,660 being shopped around so hopefully cross 1478 00:56:45,180 --> 00:56:42,580 our fingers maybe somebody will buy that 1479 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:45,190 yes I am also in that and I don't know 1480 00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:46,810 are we allowed to talk about that I know 1481 00:56:51,050 --> 00:56:48,000 I didn't sign anything 1482 00:56:53,070 --> 00:56:51,060 there was an NDA but I think you can say 1483 00:56:54,690 --> 00:56:53,080 that it's out there but I think we're 1484 00:56:57,210 --> 00:56:54,700 just not supposed to say like a whole 1485 00:57:00,480 --> 00:56:57,220 lot of details or anything fair fair all 1486 00:57:02,670 --> 00:57:00,490 right well man again it has been a huge 1487 00:57:04,770 --> 00:57:02,680 pleasure best of luck out there and keep 1488 00:57:06,750 --> 00:57:04,780 doing what you do okay man thank you 1489 00:57:08,550 --> 00:57:06,760 have a pleasure to talk to you again and 1490 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:08,560 I really appreciate a meal Cheers 1491 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:15,220 hallelujah dear listeners hallelujah 1492 00:57:20,110 --> 00:57:17,450 indeed another one in the can kicking 1493 00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:20,120 off April with a great returning guest J 1494 00:57:25,870 --> 00:57:22,400 Dyer big thanks 1495 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:25,880 I feel like THC has really built some 1496 00:57:29,980 --> 00:57:28,250 solid bench strength over the years when 1497 00:57:34,180 --> 00:57:29,990 it comes to guests who come back every 1498 00:57:36,130 --> 00:57:34,190 so often and cover a new round of media 1499 00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:36,140 in their particular Lane we got great 1500 00:57:41,980 --> 00:57:39,440 music guys like Mark Devlin also great 1501 00:57:44,770 --> 00:57:41,990 movie guys obviously Jay is one of those 1502 00:57:47,770 --> 00:57:44,780 great movie guys probably my favorite 1503 00:57:51,010 --> 00:57:47,780 his impressions work really great for 1504 00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:51,020 podcasts too but obviously today 1505 00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:53,030 especially if you heard the second hour 1506 00:57:57,420 --> 00:57:55,280 the ideological differences between us 1507 00:57:59,500 --> 00:57:57,430 we're maybe a little more obvious I 1508 00:58:01,840 --> 00:57:59,510 wouldn't even really call them 1509 00:58:03,790 --> 00:58:01,850 differences because J is an Orthodox 1510 00:58:05,770 --> 00:58:03,800 Christian and I haven't really planted 1511 00:58:09,610 --> 00:58:05,780 my flag anywhere at this point and I 1512 00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:09,620 won't call me a chaos' ideologist I like 1513 00:58:15,310 --> 00:58:13,040 to pull things from wherever that I 1514 00:58:18,340 --> 00:58:15,320 think seemed to work for me because I 1515 00:58:22,450 --> 00:58:18,350 don't really like any of the boxes I've 1516 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:22,460 seen enough to hop in but I did have 1517 00:58:28,930 --> 00:58:25,490 some questions about Jays ideology of 1518 00:58:30,850 --> 00:58:28,940 course and after the show we were 1519 00:58:32,860 --> 00:58:30,860 actually talking and I asked him if he 1520 00:58:35,860 --> 00:58:32,870 was familiar with miguel conner because 1521 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:35,870 i would actually be pretty interested to 1522 00:58:42,670 --> 00:58:39,850 hear jay and miguel sort of debate or 1523 00:58:45,010 --> 00:58:42,680 rigorously discuss those two 1524 00:58:48,940 --> 00:58:45,020 perspectives the orthodox christian 1525 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:48,950 perspective versus Gnosticism i'm not 1526 00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:50,570 the guy to do it but i think it would be 1527 00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:54,110 a really fun thing to listen to and he 1528 00:58:58,810 --> 00:58:56,240 said funny enough i was just on with 1529 00:59:01,450 --> 00:58:58,820 miguel and so i haven't checked it out 1530 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:01,460 yet to see if it aired but i'm looking 1531 00:59:06,370 --> 00:59:03,890 forward to hearing jay on a on bite 1532 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:06,380 talking about those differences 1533 00:59:09,450 --> 00:59:08,290 potentially 1534 00:59:13,130 --> 00:59:09,460 and that's really saying something 1535 00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:13,140 because I'm honestly exhausted by the 1536 00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:16,030 ideological and philosophical and 1537 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:19,680 political debates that are happening 1538 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:23,890 across podcasting the been Shapiro's and 1539 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:25,690 Steven Crowder's and even Jordan 1540 00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:28,450 Peterson at this point I do think it's 1541 00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:30,640 ultimately good to have a greater depth 1542 00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:33,430 to discussion as we drift towards the 1543 00:59:41,490 --> 00:59:36,640 idiocracy age but sometimes it's like 1544 00:59:43,860 --> 00:59:41,500 guys guys who gives a [\h__\h] just have 1545 00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:43,870 some fun be a good person and enjoy your 1546 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:46,240 life I mean maybe that is what they 1547 00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:50,290 enjoy obviously they do but regardless I 1548 00:59:56,250 --> 00:59:52,720 think Jay is a really good communicator 1549 00:59:59,010 --> 00:59:56,260 and common ground finder but even as he 1550 01:00:01,470 --> 00:59:59,020 said some of the things that I associate 1551 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:01,480 as positive aspects of a Gnostic 1552 01:00:08,370 --> 01:00:05,170 perspective he also considers those same 1553 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:08,380 things positive and also principles of 1554 01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:11,050 his ideology but on some of those things 1555 01:00:15,570 --> 01:00:12,790 I think it's good that we got into it 1556 01:00:18,900 --> 01:00:15,580 and it's good to know that we do kind of 1557 01:00:20,850 --> 01:00:18,910 agree and I'm glad we agree and that is 1558 01:00:23,940 --> 01:00:20,860 that but in terms of content for this 1559 01:00:26,250 --> 01:00:23,950 show great start to with mob money and 1560 01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:26,260 studios as front companies that's the 1561 01:00:30,270 --> 01:00:27,760 sort of stuff that I think's really 1562 01:00:32,070 --> 01:00:30,280 juicy of course that's where his book 1563 01:00:34,620 --> 01:00:32,080 goes so I knew that that's where this 1564 01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:34,630 was gonna go to but it's fun off the 1565 01:00:40,830 --> 01:00:38,110 radar stuff and higher side news people 1566 01:00:43,260 --> 01:00:40,840 always ask how do I know when the joint 1567 01:00:45,870 --> 01:00:43,270 sessions are well they are always on 1568 01:00:48,330 --> 01:00:45,880 either the 20th or the 25th of the month 1569 01:00:50,940 --> 01:00:48,340 at 7:00 p.m. Pacific time and it's in 1570 01:00:52,410 --> 01:00:50,950 these wrap ups when I let you know which 1571 01:00:54,810 --> 01:00:52,420 one we're gonna be looking at this month 1572 01:00:57,930 --> 01:00:54,820 I bounce back and forth between these 1573 01:01:00,540 --> 01:00:57,940 two days because if one falls on the 1574 01:01:03,630 --> 01:01:00,550 weekend or a holiday or a commitment I 1575 01:01:05,529 --> 01:01:03,640 have 9 out of 10 times it's easy to just 1576 01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:05,539 pick that other day 1577 01:01:10,859 --> 01:01:07,609 this month is going to be on the 25th 1578 01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:10,869 because 420 of course is a holiday and 1579 01:01:16,089 --> 01:01:13,249 with these things I haven't been able to 1580 01:01:18,639 --> 01:01:16,099 go live on YouTube like I was in the 1581 01:01:21,129 --> 01:01:18,649 beginning I don't know exactly why I 1582 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:21,139 think it might be copyright strikes it 1583 01:01:27,309 --> 01:01:24,130 just doesn't seem to work so instead of 1584 01:01:30,099 --> 01:01:27,319 hundreds of people that I had we're only 1585 01:01:31,899 --> 01:01:30,109 getting dozens and then only three or 1586 01:01:35,199 --> 01:01:31,909 four or five people want to actually 1587 01:01:38,339 --> 01:01:35,209 talk so I would love to see more people 1588 01:01:40,659 --> 01:01:38,349 who want to talk on the show show up and 1589 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:40,669 maybe even have something prepared to 1590 01:01:45,099 --> 01:01:43,130 say an experience that you had a theory 1591 01:01:47,559 --> 01:01:45,109 that you have you know it's a time to 1592 01:01:49,479 --> 01:01:47,569 put your ideas and your experiences up 1593 01:01:52,059 --> 01:01:49,489 on the main stage at least that's what I 1594 01:01:54,759 --> 01:01:52,069 like about it so be there 1595 01:01:57,189 --> 01:01:54,769 April 25th 7:00 p.m. Pacific time you 1596 01:01:59,709 --> 01:01:57,199 will find the links a few hours before 1597 01:02:02,889 --> 01:01:59,719 all over the place Facebook Twitter or 1598 01:02:04,839 --> 01:02:02,899 patreon and the plus site also I've 1599 01:02:07,449 --> 01:02:04,849 mentioned this before but it is really 1600 01:02:10,059 --> 01:02:07,459 happening now so I'm gonna start talking 1601 01:02:13,269 --> 01:02:10,069 about it at the end of every show just 1602 01:02:15,459 --> 01:02:13,279 so I know we all get the message but the 1603 01:02:18,819 --> 01:02:15,469 higher side ecosystem is being 1604 01:02:21,609 --> 01:02:18,829 redesigned upgraded we should say we're 1605 01:02:24,819 --> 01:02:21,619 combining the free and plus sites making 1606 01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:24,829 the archives less segmented and I am 1607 01:02:29,919 --> 01:02:27,169 adamant with the developers that I don't 1608 01:02:33,809 --> 01:02:29,929 want to disrupt the listeners connection 1609 01:02:36,129 --> 01:02:33,819 to either the plus or the free RSS feed 1610 01:02:37,539 --> 01:02:36,139 but when you're trying to bring two 1611 01:02:40,449 --> 01:02:37,549 websites together 1612 01:02:42,999 --> 01:02:40,459 I don't know how reasonable that really 1613 01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:43,009 is I think these are talented guys I've 1614 01:02:47,849 --> 01:02:45,529 seen the design mock-ups and I'm really 1615 01:02:50,439 --> 01:02:47,859 impressed I'm actually quite 1616 01:02:53,409 --> 01:02:50,449 enthusiastic but I just want to put it 1617 01:02:56,529 --> 01:02:53,419 out there so that you're aware that if 1618 01:03:00,399 --> 01:02:56,539 and say four to six weeks from now your 1619 01:03:02,469 --> 01:03:00,409 feed stops updating let's say even if we 1620 01:03:05,019 --> 01:03:02,479 install a redirect you might have to do 1621 01:03:08,049 --> 01:03:05,029 something quite simple like just refresh 1622 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:08,059 the thing I don't know exactly what to 1623 01:03:12,819 --> 01:03:10,130 expect but it's good to communicate with 1624 01:03:14,259 --> 01:03:12,829 you now rather than later if you happen 1625 01:03:16,899 --> 01:03:14,269 to have issues getting the show because 1626 01:03:18,459 --> 01:03:16,909 you wouldn't be hearing me then and I'll 1627 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:18,469 spare you all the reasons why I'm doing 1628 01:03:21,460 --> 01:03:19,010 it but there are 1629 01:03:24,580 --> 01:03:21,470 good ones from being at risk of Adi 1630 01:03:26,740 --> 01:03:24,590 listing by Google too less confusion 1631 01:03:28,150 --> 01:03:26,750 over the segmented show archived to the 1632 01:03:30,910 --> 01:03:28,160 fact that I plan on doing this for the 1633 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:30,920 rest of my life so let's make it right 1634 01:03:37,330 --> 01:03:34,730 for the long term maybe I won't spare 1635 01:03:39,220 --> 01:03:37,340 you the reasons why but anyway as you 1636 01:03:41,260 --> 01:03:39,230 know there's always a plus portion to 1637 01:03:43,270 --> 01:03:41,270 the interviews I do an extra hour for 1638 01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:43,280 those who support the show with a plus 1639 01:03:48,130 --> 01:03:46,310 subscription and this one with Jay Dyer 1640 01:03:51,730 --> 01:03:48,140 is no different and in it we talked 1641 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:51,740 about a little more of my Gnosticism 1642 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:54,530 verse Orthodox Christianity questions of 1643 01:03:59,980 --> 01:03:57,170 course that's a natural continuation of 1644 01:04:01,990 --> 01:03:59,990 the V for Vendetta discussion but we 1645 01:04:04,660 --> 01:04:02,000 also talked about MKULTRA and media 1646 01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:04,670 things like stranger things inversions 1647 01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:09,200 of norms in media aliens as rebranded 1648 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:12,110 demons you know I love that and what I 1649 01:04:16,870 --> 01:04:14,090 really love talking to Jay about was his 1650 01:04:19,630 --> 01:04:16,880 globalist book analysis series that he 1651 01:04:21,580 --> 01:04:19,640 does for his paid subscribers and that's 1652 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:21,590 where we talked about Jonas Salk's own 1653 01:04:26,530 --> 01:04:24,410 writings on vaccines and their uses 1654 01:04:29,410 --> 01:04:26,540 which ties into our last show with Dell 1655 01:04:32,230 --> 01:04:29,420 big tree and we had a lot of times today 1656 01:04:33,610 --> 01:04:32,240 even KJ Osbourne got a mention and 1657 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:33,620 that's fun when that happens pretty 1658 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:36,530 organically right and we also talked 1659 01:04:41,770 --> 01:04:39,050 about geoengineering and weather weapons 1660 01:04:44,980 --> 01:04:41,780 spin and film another great section from 1661 01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:44,990 his book I think that second hour has a 1662 01:04:50,140 --> 01:04:46,880 lot of interesting stuff in it and again 1663 01:04:51,490 --> 01:04:50,150 guys I do really like both esoteric 1664 01:04:54,580 --> 01:04:51,500 Hollywood 1 & 2 1665 01:04:56,860 --> 01:04:54,590 Jay's books are great reads I am 1666 01:04:59,800 --> 01:04:56,870 thankful to him for sending me the set 1667 01:05:02,770 --> 01:04:59,810 and signing them both great additions to 1668 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:02,780 the higher side bookshelf and sometimes 1669 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:05,930 I sit and think man I have a really 1670 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:08,090 great collection of signed books from 1671 01:05:13,330 --> 01:05:09,970 great authors that I've interviewed 1672 01:05:15,220 --> 01:05:13,340 maybe they're my peers I guess but 1673 01:05:17,850 --> 01:05:15,230 they're talented guys and I'm lucky to 1674 01:05:21,190 --> 01:05:17,860 know them and be involved in anyway I 1675 01:05:23,650 --> 01:05:21,200 got the best job in the world but that's 1676 01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:23,660 the show I hope you enjoyed it we do it 1677 01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:26,880 all for you and of course ourselves 1678 01:05:31,340 --> 01:05:29,310 but I am very thankful for everyone 1679 01:05:32,780 --> 01:05:31,350 hearing this and I hope you keep coming 1680 01:05:35,060 --> 01:05:32,790 back I'm getting out of here 1681 01:05:37,010 --> 01:05:35,070 your move Hollywood wizards culture 1682 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:37,020 creation of cultists and makers of that 1683 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:40,010 sweet sweet eight millimeter magic your 1684 01:05:47,170 --> 01:05:42,210 [\h__\h] move 1685 01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:47,180 you know the plan has always been me 1686 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:50,160 MK you're just trying to dream you 1687 01:05:57,410 --> 01:05:54,330 insane they'll explode your heart if 1688 01:06:01,210 --> 01:05:57,420 they think that's what it claims you 1689 01:06:04,610 --> 01:06:01,220 think I'm answering the phone when I aim 1690 01:06:07,220 --> 01:06:04,620 you gotta keep it burning strong cuz you 1691 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:07,230 don't want anyone thinking yo at home 1692 01:06:14,180 --> 01:06:10,290 well you're not you should tape the mail 1693 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:14,190 slot and baby if I seem withdrawn let me 1694 01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:17,130 sing it's cuz I just don't wanna go and 1695 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:20,240 get whacked maybe you should know that 1696 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:23,730 the trauma of things do you like it does 1697 01:06:32,180 --> 01:06:27,930 everyone it's just the game plan it's 1698 01:06:33,299 --> 01:06:32,190 where the world's become they want a pet 1699 01:06:35,970 --> 01:06:33,309 [Music] 1700 01:06:37,070 --> 01:06:35,980 don't you see what's going on well now 1701 01:07:08,190 --> 01:06:37,080 you 1702 01:07:11,860 --> 01:07:08,200 in the end 1703 01:07:15,810 --> 01:07:11,870 and if for some reason you think I might 1704 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:15,820 be wrong I wonder where you got that 1705 01:07:22,510 --> 01:07:20,210 opinion from you gotta keep the Turner's 1706 01:07:25,210 --> 01:07:22,520 strong cuz you don't want anyone 1707 01:07:28,810 --> 01:07:25,220 thinking you're at home well you're not 1708 01:07:31,870 --> 01:07:28,820 you should tape the mail slot and baby 1709 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:31,880 if I seem withdrawn let me say it's cuz 1710 01:07:38,770 --> 01:07:34,850 I just don't wanna go and get whacked 1711 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:38,780 maybe you should know that the trauma of 1712 01:07:45,250 --> 01:07:42,890 sex do you like it does everyone it's 1713 01:07:49,849 --> 01:07:45,260 just the game when it's where the 1714 01:07:52,789 --> 01:07:49,859 world's become they want a pat-down 1715 01:07:56,689 --> 01:07:52,799 don't you see what's going on well now 1716 01:08:00,289 --> 01:07:56,699 you know you're better keepin on your 1717 01:08:04,219 --> 01:08:00,299 round cuz you can see the Masters 1718 01:08:09,919 --> 01:08:04,229 lighting much oh baby you can only trust 1719 01:08:13,279 --> 01:08:09,929 yourself and if you think the system's 1720 01:08:16,599 --> 01:08:13,289 out of touch it is and you can only 1721 01:08:34,970 --> 01:08:16,609 trust yourself 1722 01:08:38,700 --> 01:08:34,980 [Music] 1723 01:08:43,229 --> 01:08:38,710 you might think that these problems are 1724 01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:43,239 small maybe they aren't registering at 1725 01:08:51,899 --> 01:08:47,440 all now they know you're naive and 1726 01:08:56,899 --> 01:08:51,909 vulnerable you won't believe I love the 1727 01:09:00,959 --> 01:08:56,909 sense that kelpo cuz you can see the 1728 01:09:06,499 --> 01:09:00,969 Masters lied too much oh baby you can 1729 01:09:10,530 --> 01:09:06,509 only trust yourself and if you think the 1730 01:09:15,059 --> 01:09:10,540 system's out of touch it is and you can 1731 01:09:19,499 --> 01:09:15,069 only trust yourself because you can see 1732 01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:19,509 the Masters lied too much oh baby you 1733 01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:24,480 can only trust yourself and if you think 1734 01:09:31,950 --> 01:09:29,440 the system's out of touch it is and you 1735 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:31,960 can only trust yourself